Here is a thread on Reddit that explains it more: https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/94xu2n/apple_is... He's basically lying to sell products when he lied about Sandy Hook being fake the victim's families got doxed by his crazed fans. He also claimed the government was putting chemicals in the water that turns frogs gay, implying that the same chemicals turn people gay, etc. This is really hurting people an…
Apple is removing Alex Jones and InfoWars’ podcasts from iTunes
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#132Probably be down-voted for this, but I find it funny, lots of people here support Apple. No matter how trash the podcast author was, I'd imagine there'd be an outrage if this were a move by Google. I'm not a fan of either, but interesting to observe the polarized reactions depending on the corporate in question.
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#133I've never listened to it, and in fact I have no idea who that guy is or what he talks about, except that he's supposedly a conspiracy theorist. For those of you who have, what made his show so objectionable (to Apple, anyway)?
He supports POTUS.
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#134As a reminder to everyone: the constitutional guarantee to freedom of speech means that the _government_ cannot censor any views (outside of certain exceptions for threatening language, and the like). It does not mean that a private entity has to enable speech that they find objectionable.
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#135He won't get ad revenue, but he'll still get to his message out.
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#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Jewish Mafia There's a Jewish Mafia? >Pizzagate He talked about it, sure, but if you can find me where he promotes violence against Alefantis then I'll eat my hat.
> There's a Jewish Mafia? According to Jones [1][2]. (To be clear, there was a strain of Jewish-American organized crime around the turn of the last century [3], but that isn't what Jones was referring to.) [1] https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/10/26/13418304/... [2] https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounders/alex-jones-five-... [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish-American_organized_crim...
Also, even if there were a Jewish mafia, discussing Jewish organized crime is no more anti-Jewish than discussing Italian organized crime is anti-Italian.
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If one forces a person to to talk freely in a backyard instead of of the main street, one is censoring him since no one can hear him any more. That is happening when Apple pushes Alex Jones out of iTunes.
Main street is public. And as far as I know the owner of the land can kick you when they want, for instance in malls or such. So Apple censoring is the same as a mall refusing you to hold a protest there, which happens all the time.
1. The tech giants use their influence to get enough Democrats elected in 2018 to keep crushing any political dissent on their platforms that reaches any kind of popularity. They are ostensibly pursuing this course today, and it's a little frightening. 2. Republicans keep the house and/or Senate, and Regulation or Anti-Trust suits ramp up since half the country has no voice online anymore. 3. SV returns to the first amendment, does a 180 degree turn, and only purges illegal speech like libel, slander, threats, etc.
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Main street is public. And as far as I know the owner of the land can kick you when they want, for instance in malls or such. So Apple censoring is the same as a mall refusing you to hold a protest there, which happens all the time.
There really is no alternative to the current crop of tech giants. They literally have a monopoly on social media and are all extremely left-leaning, and increasingly hostile to any legal dissent. There are three scenarios I see playing out. 1. The tech giants use their influence to get enough Democrats elected in 2018 to keep crushing any political dissent on their platforms that reaches any kind of popularity. They…
This is a truth. The current laws haven't done a good job at modernising and adapting to the influence these tech giants have and how they operate.
> and are all extremely left-leaning
Here's the question worth considering: Are they extremely/abnormally left leaning, or is the world getting more left leaning? What makes them left leaning? Because they advocate for general social issues like treating humans as equals and with dignity and respect?
Banning Infowars isnt banning conservative views - its banning abhorrent hate speech. Calling Sandy Hook "completely fake" and "manufactured" and saying that the kids from Stoneman Douglas High School are crisis actors isn't "right wing" or conservative.
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Except Apple receives tons of subsidies.[1] Apple is much more of a monopoly than the ISPs in my local area. I can choose between Google or Apple. On the other hand, I can choose between Sprint, AT&T, Verizon, Comcast, Sonic, or T-Mobile. [1] https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/07/03/google-tesla-apple-fa...
> Apple is much more of a monopoly than the ISPs in my local area The courts disagree. ISPs can be treated as public utilities by states, if they so choose. (New York's Public Service Commission just kicked an ISP out of the state [1].) In any case, we are talking about specific products. Internet service with respect to ISPs; podcasting with respect to Apple. Apple does not have anything resembling a monopoly in pod…
Really?