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Re: E-Cigarette Maker Juul Labs Is Raising $1.2B

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Post by singingfish » Sun, Jul 01, 2018, 1:40 AM UTC

EpicEng wrote: post #128

tonypace wrote: post #115

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There are a lot of studies about inhaling PG in the context of smoke machines (in bars, generally). It reduces lung function, but not permanently. No more serious harm seems to be indicated.

Also, PG has been used in ventilation systems as an air sanitizer for decades. Not a 1:1 comparison given the massively increased volume papers get, but it's something.

There's literature back to the 1930s about workers inhalation of VG and PG vapour in volume in an industrial setting. From memory, there are consequences but not associated with the chronic degenerative health conditions associated with cigarette smoking. An examination of the molecular biology of VG and PG suggests its quite difficult to find bad things they would do that would be associated with the chronic degenerative health conditions associated with smoking.

Re: E-Cigarette Maker Juul Labs Is Raising $1.2B

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Post by singingfish » Sun, Jul 01, 2018, 1:42 AM UTC

tigershark wrote: post #42

gringoDan wrote: post #3

I wonder how good it is for public health if Juul is able to grow this market. Do the health benefits from cigarette smokers switching to e-cigarettes offset the young people who never would have dreamt of smoking cigarettes heavily, but regularly use Juul? I had no idea how pervasive Juul was for college students until my sister told me that multiple people were "Juul-ing" in all of her classes. Highly recommend thi…

I never heard of this Jool-thingy before, but when I was smoking I switched to e-cig for a while and after a couple of month I had to stop altogether because one night I managed to smoke the equivalent of 2 packs of cigs in something like 4/5 hours. After that night I didn’t smoke for 8/9 months I think because the effect that it had on me was so awful. After some huge stress at work I started again and after a coupl…

I'm not sure how you'd manage to "smoke the equivalent of 2 packs of cigs in something like 4/5 hours". Firstly you're not inhaling any combustion products, so that's not equivalent to start with. Secondly the absorbance of nicotine from ecig vapour is much lower than when nicotine is inhaled in the form of smoke such equivalence is not really measurable.

Re: E-Cigarette Maker Juul Labs Is Raising $1.2B

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Post by cowpewter » Mon, Jul 02, 2018, 1:18 PM UTC

notvplez wrote: post #127

Jonovono wrote: post #121

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It's the mental addiction. The physical health is not really something you deal with every day - usually doesn't get super serious until you get older. But when you are addicted to smoking (cigs or ecigs), it changes you. It interferes with how you live your life. You are now thinking about smoking a lot, when the next time you smoke will be. You will be doing something and then you will think "I wish I had a cigaret…

In my personal experience, vaping does not feel very addictive at all. I used to be a heavy smoker, using 3-4 hand rolled cigarettes every hour unless I was somewhere I could not smoke. I'm now a heavy vaper, I vape all day every day, but it feels more like something I do because I enjoy doing it than because I need to. When I was a smoker, running out of tobacco would induce panic attacks. Every minute spent on an a…

I've never smoked, but I agree with you on the vaping not feeling very addictive. I vape all day while I'm working (I work from home), but I don't take my vape with me when I leave the house, and while I occasionally have a thought like, hmm, a vape would be nice right now, I never feel driven to vape or deprived without it, even when I'm out of the house without the vape all day.