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Re: IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

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Post by bogomipz »

ummjackson wrote: post #23

London Trust Media recently hired Mt. Gox (yes that Mt. Gox) ex-CEO Mark Karpeles as CTO. https://www.engadget.com/2018/04/22/mt-gox-chief-returns-as-...

Yeah and it sounds like he still has to stand trial in Japan and could possibly go back to jail:

“I have no way to be sure that I’ll still be able to work in one year, two years,” Karpelès told Fortune in an interview in Tokyo in March. “So I cannot really get a normal full-time job.” In other words, he acknowledges, he may be sent back to jail. (For the full tale of how the Mt. Gox hack mystery has unfolded, see my feature story “Mt. Gox and the Surprising Redemption of Bitcoin’s Biggest Villain” from the May issue of Fortune.)

But whether it’s what he considers “normal” or not, Karpelès recently did land a new job—and a major one, as a C-level executive at a U.S. corporation. He’s the new chief technology officer of London Trust Media, a Denver-based company that boasts the world’s largest paid virtual private network (VPN) service."[1]

Sounds like a great choice.

[1] http://fortune.com/2018/04/19/bitcoin-mark-karpeles-mt-gox-c...

Re: IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

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Post by erikb »

a_lieb wrote: post #86

It's good that they want to maintain and nourish the culture that has grown up around IRC, but in the long run, shouldn't the focus be on keeping the culture but moving it toward newer federated systems like Matrix? IRC is late 80's technology with no security.

Just because a protocol is old, doesn't mean you need to replace it. And newer stuff often is just a reiteration of the old stuff anyways.

Re: IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

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Post by adrianmalacoda »

pmoriarty wrote: post #28
ve55 wrote: post #10

I'm interested to see how they manage to convince communities to use their IRC services over competitors like Discord when so many users see Discord as easy, free, trendy, etc. Of course services liks Slack, Telegram, Skype, etc, are also potential competitors in this ecosystem. >IRC Gaming (We're going to have literally hundreds of thousands in cash prizes!) I suppose literally paying users money is one way, but it…

Are there any open source Discord clients? So far, I've refused to try it because the only client Gentoo has is a binary blob.

There is a libpurple/Pidgin plugin for Discord. As you might expect, however, it only exposes text chat and not any of the "rich" features such as voice chat or emote reactions.

I don't know of any free software full reimplementation of the Discord client, and I suspect such would be against their terms of service.

Re: IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

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Post by fiatjaf »

a_lieb wrote: post #86

It's good that they want to maintain and nourish the culture that has grown up around IRC, but in the long run, shouldn't the focus be on keeping the culture but moving it toward newer federated systems like Matrix? IRC is late 80's technology with no security.

Slack, Discord and Telegram also have no security. IRC is pretty good for public conversations.

Re: IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

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Post by bengarrr »

cmsj wrote: post #90
nopacience wrote: post #76

Long live IRC There will always be new platforms like slack, discord, gitter, and whatever. IRC was and still is great. IRC is simple, its text, its stable. Its simple to program on and a lot can be done above it. IRC is open. The basis of old internet protocols are simple, open and powerful Email, IRC, HTML, FTP And as the article points out, irc has no face. IRC was a time people had to ask for a picture. Different…

IRC is and always will be, the greatest social network :)

But its not really a social network...BBSs were/are great too! Plus BBs let you actually manage content versus just chat and link. IRC is great and always will be but a social network it is not...and I doubt we are gonna see any real revival.

Re: IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

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Post by LinuxBender »

pmoriarty wrote: post #28
ve55 wrote: post #10

I'm interested to see how they manage to convince communities to use their IRC services over competitors like Discord when so many users see Discord as easy, free, trendy, etc. Of course services liks Slack, Telegram, Skype, etc, are also potential competitors in this ecosystem. >IRC Gaming (We're going to have literally hundreds of thousands in cash prizes!) I suppose literally paying users money is one way, but it…

Are there any open source Discord clients? So far, I've refused to try it because the only client Gentoo has is a binary blob.

No, but there are client + server alternatives that are free. Mumble / Murmur is one. Rock solid and scales to large numbers of users even when running on a tiny VM. They are kindof slow to release new features, so you would want to try their latest snapshot of the server and client.

Re: IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

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Post by amatecha »

I mean, IRC is still going pretty strong. I've used IRCCloud [0] for years and swear by it. IRC is still pretty much the universal chat protocol you can expect to find discussion forums for pretty much any subject, and not encumbered by centralized commercial systems like Slack or Discord (as much as I like them).

[0] https://www.irccloud.com/

Re: IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

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Post by LinuxBender »

a_lieb wrote: post #86

It's good that they want to maintain and nourish the culture that has grown up around IRC, but in the long run, shouldn't the focus be on keeping the culture but moving it toward newer federated systems like Matrix? IRC is late 80's technology with no security.

I am not sure I follow. I've run UnrealIRCD for a very long time and it has more security and privacy capabilities than any of the newer chat systems.

Re: IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

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Post by LinuxBender »

_8j50 wrote: post #122

I like IRC but it's 2018 and even the latest drafts of ircv3 lack built in e2e encryption for private and group messages. Using IRC is like using ftp or email. We've been there and tried that,slapping on a solution to secure it just won't work well. They've been trying to fix email for decades now and the best solutions we have(gpg and s/mime) still don't provide metadata security (I don't think their encryption can…

There are plenty of clients that can use OTR and other e2e protocols on top of IRC.
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