NFL Releases Finite Element Helmet Models

Post by poulsbohemian » Tue, May 15, 2018, 11:53 PM UTC

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I played organized American Football from the time I was a kid. Went to at the time the biggest high school in the state. I don't recall ever having any kind of head injuries despite getting hit a lot. Went out in college to try Rugby as a club sport. First practice, horrific concussion. I am a sample size of one, but I'd much rather my son play American Football than Rugby. If he gets to the college or pro level, th…

Concussions are accumulative and most of them are not macro evident. Lots of micro concussions could be worse than a single big one. So I do not think your data means what you believe it means. There is a reason they call NFL "Not For Long". I would not let my children play either American football or rugby, existing options like basketball or tennis. Luckily most of the world plays soccer.

Post by poulsbohemian » Tue, May 15, 2018, 11:57 PM UTC

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I played organized American Football from the time I was a kid. Went to at the time the biggest high school in the state. I don't recall ever having any kind of head injuries despite getting hit a lot. Went out in college to try Rugby as a club sport. First practice, horrific concussion. I am a sample size of one, but I'd much rather my son play American Football than Rugby. If he gets to the college or pro level, th…

Have you considered the possibility that the difference is that you played American Football against smaller people?

Post by Sohcahtoa82 » Wed, May 16, 2018, 12:11 AM UTC

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Given how strongly you talk about football here you must have a good understanding of the sport. How much experience have you had with football, either playing or watching?

A lot of watching, and my claim is only about the fans, not the players, so I’m not sure how any playing experience would help me here. I know that millions of people have watched Lawrence Taylor’s career ending tackle of Joe Thiesmann while Lawrence Taylor has himself never watched it.

Post by soperj » Wed, May 16, 2018, 12:35 AM UTC

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There are several sports than can be dangerous and involve risk of death, like basically all forms of racing, climbing, endurance, etc. As long as practitioners are educated and consenting, I don't see a problem. The problem is if the those responsible for the athletes are not upfront on the risks, or if the athlete is not able to make a proper judgement to consent, like a child.

Yes, there are risks in all these activities, the problem with full-contact football, or hockey & lacrosse is that there is no way to be educated and consenting for an aspect that is inherent to the very nature of the activity, especially if you're a kid. Up in Canada the pro-contact hockey crowd loves to talk about "teaching kids how to hit properly" which I'd suspect is a similar attitude to those coaching 5-yr-old…

Post by jpindar » Wed, May 16, 2018, 12:45 AM UTC

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Summarizing: "Because this activity is so dangerous, and results in many head injuries, we've spent $60 million developing a framework for manufacturers to make helmets that will mitigate the injuries from the this entirely voluntary activity." Umm, has anyone considered just not doing this activity? I don't mean to be trite, but that's what it looks like from the perspective of one who has little interest in footbal…

You aren't going to get the activity of football to go away even if it is risky and bad idea for ones health. Just look at all the dumb stuff our country does already. To pose a different question, I always wonder if this is the wrong direction. Why not remove the helmets altogether? Or go back to the leather ones? Has their been any comparative studies from head injuries back before the plastic shell was introduced?…