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Re: Make front end shit again

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Post by hartator »

fwdpropaganda wrote: post #127
saravieira wrote: post #70

Hey! I made this dumb thing! Yes, the fact that it's made with vue and stuff is on porpuse, I wanted to make it with reasonml but didn't have any time so ended up with vue. The point is that we complicate so many shit today that is not needed Have fun and I will add some marquee tags!

I'm surprised. I'm running uMatrix and block all js by default. Still, my mouse pointer got changed into a spaceship. How does this work?

To the moon!

From memory, it’s just CSS. You have a ‘pointer: spaceship.ico’ probably on the body.

Re: Make front end shit again

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Post by zeusk »

madeofpalk wrote: post #46
gerdesj wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Shouldn't this literally be a single page, hand-built HTML file with inline CSS? Is this trying to be self-ironic or something? Yes, I'm going to assume that is a parody. However, signs of FrontPage or Word as an editor would be cool.

Reminds me of the Bloomberg tech site, which had a lot of effort put into its 'brutalist' design to look like a 1995-era web page.

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/404

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/500

https://www.bloomberg.com/500

Their error pages are still quite funny (and epic shit).

Re: Make front end shit again

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Post by taesis »

fwdpropaganda wrote: post #127
saravieira wrote: post #70

Hey! I made this dumb thing! Yes, the fact that it's made with vue and stuff is on porpuse, I wanted to make it with reasonml but didn't have any time so ended up with vue. The point is that we complicate so many shit today that is not needed Have fun and I will add some marquee tags!

I'm surprised. I'm running uMatrix and block all js by default. Still, my mouse pointer got changed into a spaceship. How does this work?

Looks like you can set the cursor [1] property on some root element and it replaces the cursor with a custom image.

[1]: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/cursor

Re: Make front end shit again

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Post by exodust »

derefr wrote: post #115
exodust wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why did you add jquery to a list containing "blink" on a page with CRT monitors and animated GIFs? Let me guess, you have a negative opinion about jquery, that all anyone needs is vue.js

I think the suggestion is that building a page with jQuery is now seemingly as “forgotten” a technique as building a page with plain HTML, despite being both a relatively-recent and still-valid approach to modern design. (Saying that nobody uses plain Javascript to build pages these days wouldn’t be as notable, and so not as funny. jQuery is just standing in for “plain Javascript” here, because it sort of was the onl…

I think you're being too forgiving of a lousy joke.

Re: Make front end shit again

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Post by lemonberry »

TobiasA wrote: post #39
wereHamster wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hand-build HTML file with inline CSS, that you edit with $YOURFAVOURITETEXTEDITOR which requires an OS that's 50 million lines of code. And you're complaining about 7000 lines in an auto-generated file, which doesn't even have to be touched nor edited by a human? The tools we use are insignificant, what's important is the result. If the result is a HTML file with inline CSS, who cares how it was created? You can use…

Way to miss the point.

Indeed. From her twitter post: "We started making websites because it was fun because we wanted to make dumb shit and now everything is so serious and sometimes I feel like we need to go back"

Leave it to an internet forum to get all gripey about something someone did for fun.

Theodor Adorno said about philosophy that, "Philosophy is the most serious of things but then again it is not that serious".

I'm pretty sure we can say the same thing about web development.

https://twitter.com/NikkitaFTW/status/995670345624555520

Re: Make front end shit again

#138

Post by zaat »

reaperducer wrote: post #66
gerdesj wrote: post #22

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I might have done this: http://www.ex-parrot.com/pete/upside-down-ternet.html to an entire business division for a while. Might have.

There was an Apple ][ game that did something similar. I think it might have been King's Quest. In the era when people used hole punchers to make flippy disks, if you accidentally put the game disk in your machine upside down, the game displayed upside down. Today you can make any Mac's display turn upside down with a few clicks in System Preferences. Someone in my office may or may not make this happen on machines t…

Who would have thought on putting the simple and prevailing combo Ctrl + Alt + Down Arrow as a default hotkey for this? And in a program you didn't even intentionally installed?

Stupid Intel driver programmers, thanks for nothing, really. Still wondering if this came to life as an internal joke.

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000...

Re: Make front end shit again

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Post by Noumenon72 »

zaat wrote: post #138
reaperducer wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There was an Apple ][ game that did something similar. I think it might have been King's Quest. In the era when people used hole punchers to make flippy disks, if you accidentally put the game disk in your machine upside down, the game displayed upside down. Today you can make any Mac's display turn upside down with a few clicks in System Preferences. Someone in my office may or may not make this happen on machines t…

Who would have thought on putting the simple and prevailing combo Ctrl + Alt + Down Arrow as a default hotkey for this? And in a program you didn't even intentionally installed? Stupid Intel driver programmers, thanks for nothing, really. Still wondering if this came to life as an internal joke. https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000...

I thought that at first, but it is very handy when I take my laptop between normal monitor and vertical monitor.

Re: Make front end shit again

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Post by wildrhythms »

adventured wrote: post #125
xab9 wrote: post #94

Oh boy, it's a bit far fetched if not downright cynical (or maybe I'm oversensitive and this was not meant to be a response to people who cry about minute long cached webpack compile times or megabytes of angular payloads). Frontend complexity went through the roof in the last ten years and compared to desktop software (not geocities) our developer tools and end results are not that great (ymmv). But that's just my p…

It seems like it has gone through the roof in just the last three or four years. I believe the added tools & complexity is an overwhelming negative in nearly all instances, unless you're building at hyperscale (which very few are). I keep seeing things like dental groups spending a lot of money to rebuild their sites in React for absolutely no good reason, it's all a big joke. I've been doing full stack development f…

Javascript speeding up really has nothing to do with the front-end bloat. I think the problem is that there are a lot of (new?) developers in the frontend space who focus on learning a library (like Angular or React or Vue), and because these libraries have grown so complex in an attempt to solve any frontend problem that might be thrown at them, developers no longer feel the need to write a website without it.

I'm not a purist by any means, but I do think we've come to rely far too heavily on frontend libraries... And not just a reliance, but an expectation of things like single-page applications. I'm sad when I see developers pulling 4-5MB of minified javascript on a page load for something that could have been accomplished in CSS or maybe a dozen lines of JS. :/

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