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FCC declines to punish Sinclair for its ‘must-run’ segments and scripts

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Re: FCC declines to punish Sinclair for its ‘must-run’ segments and scripts

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The fairness doctrine was hardly ever envoked. Attempting to apply it to a situation like this would not be constitutional. The fairness doctrine was found constitutional when it required a rebuttal to a direct personal attack during an era when there were only 3 stations. But this situation is different. It was never applied to a sitation where a network required "must run" content. At best, the fairness doctrine wo…

>The fairness doctrine was hardly ever envoked. I (a layperson) don't really follow this. It sounds to me like "while the rules were in effect, they were rarely broken". >an era when there were only 3 stations. But this situation is different. Lots of station numbers, run by just a handful of owners: http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/07/who-owns-what-on-televis...

> >The fairness doctrine was hardly ever envoked.

> I (a layperson) don't really follow this. It sounds to me like "while the rules were in effect, they were rarely broken".

It means that the FCC rarely enforced the fairness doctrine unless it was being blatantly abused.

> Lots of station numbers, run by just a handful of owners:

> http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/07/who-owns-what-on-televis....

The fairness doctrine doesn't make sense any more because anybody with a phone can publish their opinions to a global audience. It made sense at the time because media was centrally controlled and very expensive to produce.

Re: FCC declines to punish Sinclair for its ‘must-run’ segments and scripts

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Call me crazy but it's time for a legal definition of news (vs editorial) and then have that definition forced. If false advertising is a faux pas then news that's not attempting to be objective and forthright should be labeled. Most of the so called news / journalism isn't news / journalism any more than Aspartame is sugar. If you can't call Aspartame sugar then consuming content should be forced to be as transparen…

That'd be nice. Alas...

"The Media Can Legally Lie" [2003] https://web.archive.org/web/20100421103357/http://www.projec...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Akre#Whistleblower_lawsui...

Re: FCC declines to punish Sinclair for its ‘must-run’ segments and scripts

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Um. They're all pretty deliberate. They're all gainfully employed based on one key KPI: ad revenue. They have a target market. They have a narrative. And they work that to the tune of ka-ching, ka-ching, ka-ching. Death by cancer is still death whether it's Red State death or Blue State death. That's about as equal as it gets. None of the four you listed quality as news or journalism. One another day we can discuss w…

What qualifies as news or journalism?

Verified sources, citations, quotes on the record.

Otherwise it's gossip, heresay, agitprop

Re: FCC declines to punish Sinclair for its ‘must-run’ segments and scripts

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Call me crazy but it's time for a legal definition of news (vs editorial) and then have that definition forced. If false advertising is a faux pas then news that's not attempting to be objective and forthright should be labeled. Most of the so called news / journalism isn't news / journalism any more than Aspartame is sugar. If you can't call Aspartame sugar then consuming content should be forced to be as transparen…

Ok, you’re crazy. A “legal definition of news” is exactly what the first amendment is setup to prevent. What I think it’s time for is to demand personal responsibility for critically thinking about what you read or listen to. The state cannot ever be trusted to control what you watch, read, or listen to, full stop. This has only ever ended in disaster, and we’ve known this for centuries. When people who don’t like wh…

How do you feel about food labeling laws?

Re: FCC declines to punish Sinclair for its ‘must-run’ segments and scripts

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Call me crazy but it's time for a legal definition of news (vs editorial) and then have that definition forced. If false advertising is a faux pas then news that's not attempting to be objective and forthright should be labeled. Most of the so called news / journalism isn't news / journalism any more than Aspartame is sugar. If you can't call Aspartame sugar then consuming content should be forced to be as transparen…

> Most of the so called news / journalism isn't news / journalism any more than Aspartame is sugar. News was never news. It was actually branding by the news industry in the 20th century that duped everyone into thinking that news was objective. If you are interested, go look at what newspapers were in the 1800s. They were propaganda outfits created by wealthy individuals to push agenda. The oldest newspaper in the U…

Accepting the history of media...

This is no different then the replication crisis in science.

If you want to be taken seriously, show your work. Sources, hard data, citations, on the record quotes, analysis.

Otherwise it's just gossip, agitprop, heresay.

Re: FCC declines to punish Sinclair for its ‘must-run’ segments and scripts

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Call me crazy but it's time for a legal definition of news (vs editorial) and then have that definition forced. If false advertising is a faux pas then news that's not attempting to be objective and forthright should be labeled. Most of the so called news / journalism isn't news / journalism any more than Aspartame is sugar. If you can't call Aspartame sugar then consuming content should be forced to be as transparen…

While I agree, I think I'd be saddened by what it would suss out: that people don't really want news. The sad part would be that even after this, people would still look to the Hannitys, the Maddows, the Carlsons, the Lemons of the world for their news. I understand the reasoning behind it (zero effort way of processing news). Where it does become dangerous is if someone turns a non-news/fake news item into a talking…

Not a new problem. My favorite modern retellings:

"Network" [1978] http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074958/

"De Do Do Do, De Da Da Da" [1980] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7v2GDbEmjGE

Re: FCC declines to punish Sinclair for its ‘must-run’ segments and scripts

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Alternative headline: FCC declines to violate the First Amendment of the US Constitution.

Broadcast licenses are granted on the basis of serving the public interest.

With great power comes great responsibility.

Re: FCC declines to punish Sinclair for its ‘must-run’ segments and scripts

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I think the problem here is that if Sinclair can coerce these news organizations, what else can Sinclair coerce them to say? What if they were told to say something blatantly false, or to endorse one person over another. It's also not made clear at all in these broadcasts that they're being made to read from a script, which is a perfect recipe for astroturfing[1]. [1] https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Astroturfing

If I own a station, I’m not “coercing” it when I tell that station that it is our corporate policy to advise viewers of certain features that our channel offers. In this case, they wanted to make sure that viewers understand that there is a specific way to contact the station to complain about any bias they feel the station’s own news reports may have, as this has been an issue with the media recently. I see nothing…

You may own the gear, but you wouldn't own the airwaves.

In fact, you'd only be granted permission to use the public's airwaves to serve the public interest.

Re: FCC declines to punish Sinclair for its ‘must-run’ segments and scripts

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I've thought about that idea as well, have some sort of official standard for something to be called news. Requirements about the separation between editorial and objective content, requirements for certain standards of fact checking and confirmation before reporting, etc. If you don't abide by those standards, you don't get official accreditation as a reliable news source. Give it some sort of official seal or recog…

Hmmm, like China?

How is it like China? The government isn't suppressing speech, they are merely giving recognition to organizations that meet certain standards of journalism. It has no force of law behind it, it's merely to create a public registry of which new sources meet certain standards of journalism. The public is free to look at which sources are certified to make more informed decisions about what news they consume, or they can just ignore it. Hell, it doesn't even need to be done by the government, it could be done by an NGO.

Re: FCC declines to punish Sinclair for its ‘must-run’ segments and scripts

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I think Trump is probably supportive of Sinclair. The promote a pro Trump message and have a conservative bias.

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Epshteyn Boris Alexandrovich Epshteyn (Russian: Бори́с Алекса́ндрович Эпштейн; born August 14, 1982) is a Russian-born American Republican political strategist, investment banker, and attorney. He is currently the Chief Political Analyst at Sinclair Broadcast Group . He was a senior advisor to Donald Trump's 2016 campaign for President of the United States, and previously work…

This shit is way more serious than I expected.
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