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Microplastics found in 93% of bottled water tested in global study

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Re: Microplastics found in 93% of bottled water tested in global study

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> How much is it because of reality and how much is because pf propaganda? Being from that neck of the woods, it's reality. My brother (coming from the U.S. to visit) was hospitalized for days when he was 5-6 because he ate some food off a plate that had been washed in the local water.

Why do you blame the water and not the food?

Hospital diagnosis.

Re: Microplastics found in 93% of bottled water tested in global study

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post #77

I drink a specific brand of bottled water because I don't like the taste of tap water. Filtering it takes some of the bad taste away, but adds none of the good. I'll have to add "microplastic" as another one of my favorite spices.

You could probably learn what minerals is in it, buy a boatload of it in bulk for $5 and live healthy and happy for the rest of your life.

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All the more reason to push for our governments to properly regulate a safe supply of drinking water (infrastructure level).

Governments that do this in Europe fail horribly and just increase prices by huge multiples, nothing else. Last year a whole division of a capital city (Prague) got pretty seriously sick because of government failure. Today in the morning the water did not run at all. Thanks, government. I know HN is very leftist, so I expect downvotes. It'd be nice to have a discussion though.

Austria here and I am very satisfied with my "socialist water" experience. Exposing basic requirements for survival to free market forces seems like a recipe for failure.

Re: Microplastics found in 93% of bottled water tested in global study

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post #116

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Having a 1000% markup doesn't make it a scam. The raw material is practically free so anything they charge is going to be a huge markup. There's lots of competition and people are willing to buy it. What's wrong with that? You're not paying for the water, but for all the other value that comes along with it. You can carry it around, or store it in your car, or whatever. You don't have to remember to fill up the water…

Oil is a limited resource that can be used for way more important things than disposable water bottles, such as medical supplies (syringes, IV bags, etc) and durable plastics components. Plastics themselves are a great resource that should not be wasted, not least because of the amount of energy and water it takes to produce them. Most plastic bottles are burnt, so they do contribute to climate change; the small perc…

Are we actually experiencing a syringe shortage because there's not enough plastic to go around?

Re: Microplastics found in 93% of bottled water tested in global study

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Governments that do this in Europe fail horribly and just increase prices by huge multiples, nothing else. Last year a whole division of a capital city (Prague) got pretty seriously sick because of government failure. Today in the morning the water did not run at all. Thanks, government. I know HN is very leftist, so I expect downvotes. It'd be nice to have a discussion though.

Last time I checked, we had very decent municipal water in France. In many cities it actually tastes better than bottled water. Water sources are quite well protected as well. It's not perfect, but honestly much better than the swimming pool water I drank in the US. So "Europe" is maybe a broad term here.

I think it's weird that whenever the subject of safe drinking water comes up, people immediately talk about how it tastes. As if that matters. I mean, lead is pretty tasty, too.

Re: Microplastics found in 93% of bottled water tested in global study

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post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All the more reason to push for our governments to properly regulate a safe supply of drinking water (infrastructure level).

Governments that do this in Europe fail horribly and just increase prices by huge multiples, nothing else. Last year a whole division of a capital city (Prague) got pretty seriously sick because of government failure. Today in the morning the water did not run at all. Thanks, government. I know HN is very leftist, so I expect downvotes. It'd be nice to have a discussion though.

>"Governments that do this in Europe fail horribly and just increase prices by huge multiples, nothing else." That's a very strong statement to make based on one example. That would like saying that the US has no quality control, look at Flint. As an argument for less government, this just isn't very strong. It would help to show a systematic failure instead of a singular event. But, I could imagine if that were to happen where I live, I would be pretty angry at whoever caused it as well.

Re: Microplastics found in 93% of bottled water tested in global study

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Bottled water is a scam. It's less regulated than municipal tap water in most developed nations, companies suck up water from small towns and use tons of fuel to ship it out of those watersheds and then charge people 1000% markup. For countries without clean water, the effort should be put into getting municipal water supplies. Don't buy plastic disposable water bottles if you live in a developed nation. They prop up…

Agree. However, and I'm not trolling, what about Flint MI and a number of other US cities with moderate and ongoing water issues (e.g., Trenton NJ)?

Re: Microplastics found in 93% of bottled water tested in global study

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post #87

For anyone else wondering what effect microplastics actually have on the human body, it looks like the effects are still up in the air. Animal studies [0] show that microplastics can be taken up by tissue and circulation, and they are also present in the air [1]. Not sure what impact drinking bottled water would have on concentration inside the body. I couldn't find any long term studies on their effect on cancer, wh…

We know that a lot of nasty (carcinogenic) chemicals will bond to plastics, poisoning any animal that ingests it. If you can't get the plastics out of the water you can't get the other chemicals out, because the plastic has already grabbed it.

Citation for downvoters:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23270427

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