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Is there a real RSS reader for the desktop anymore, besides Thunderbird? And one for iOS and Android? I can only find frontends to online services like Feedly.
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> No. That’s the opposite of why people are again pushing RSS. Maybe the opposite of why users are pushing for RSS, but without analytics content producers have reasonable justification for being hostile instead.
Which is why I suggested the middle ground of a pingback URL that clients or services can hit to give the publishers certain stats like aggregated counts. If certain publishers are not ok with those limitations there will still be a bunch of people writing blog posts that are not so concerned.
I assume that 80-90% of blogs already have RSS, just due to default configurations. Seems to me the context here is about pushing adoption and design significantly beyond that, both in terms of consumers and producers.
I can't say for certain that a pingback URL system would be acceptable, but I strongly suspect a dramatic comeback requires drastic measures.
> losing your logo, colors, and fonts on an article is an effective way to kill enterprise value Dropping the garbage styles is one of my favorite things about RSS. Using my TT-RSS via phone app is a lot speedier than the "enterprise value" provided by the native site. This article loads 3.97MB with an adblocker. In TT-RSS, I can load the homepage and a full-page RSS article from Ars Technica for only 600kb.
Most of the problems the author mentions are, to me, the actual reasons I love RSS. No filtering. No comments. No proposal. No central way to find them. It's not the absence of curation. It's my curation. It's easy: I like a site, I want news, I get the RSS. I delete it when it's not to my taste anymore. The basic, deterministic, manual aspect of it is what's right with it. Not what's wrong. Another weird idea is tha…
Shameless(-ish) plug for my project, siftrss: https://siftrss.com/
You add a source feed, include/exclude items by keyword or regex match, and get a new filtered feed to subscribe to. Because it produces a normal RSS feed like any other, it works with all RSS readers.
It's totally free. No ads, no account, no email capture, nothing but totally disposable RSS feed filters.
Most of the problems the author mentions are, to me, the actual reasons I love RSS. No filtering. No comments. No proposal. No central way to find them. It's not the absence of curation. It's my curation. It's easy: I like a site, I want news, I get the RSS. I delete it when it's not to my taste anymore. The basic, deterministic, manual aspect of it is what's right with it. Not what's wrong. Another weird idea is tha…
> No filtering. Shameless(-ish) plug for my project, siftrss: https://siftrss.com/ You add a source feed, include/exclude items by keyword or regex match, and get a new filtered feed to subscribe to. Because it produces a normal RSS feed like any other, it works with all RSS readers. It's totally free. No ads, no account, no email capture, nothing but totally disposable RSS feed filters.
Hmm, I wonder if there's a way to use it to turn a Medium feed into something useful. (By default, a medium feed is not, as it contains all comments by the author interspersed with actual stories/posts, with no obvious way for software to distinguish).
Most of the problems the author mentions are, to me, the actual reasons I love RSS. No filtering. No comments. No proposal. No central way to find them. It's not the absence of curation. It's my curation. It's easy: I like a site, I want news, I get the RSS. I delete it when it's not to my taste anymore. The basic, deterministic, manual aspect of it is what's right with it. Not what's wrong. Another weird idea is tha…
That's because the author is a tool of the global ad-tech agenda, writing articles with click-bait headlines. RSS isn't a particularly profitable utility to inject ads into, or suck personal info out of (less cookies, no pixels, makes an MBA yawn in meetings), so I guess that means it's "dead" right? Oh noes! Markdown is dead! Oh noes! SOAP XML is dead! Oh noes! RESTful JSON is dead! How the fuck would a non-coding j…
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Surely Google Reader had numbers that influenced the decision to shut it down?
I guess that the decision to shut the Reader down didn't appear due to lack of users, but rather ambitions to shape the internet-news-experience by more tightly controlled, proprietary apps like Google Currents/Newsstand or maybe even Plus.
Of course anything Google shuts down gets an immediate scream of pain from some people, but most everything else they've shut down has died out since then.
(The other one I still hear about is Wave. Though that one seems to have a lot of people lamenting what could have been, rather than what actually was. For Reader, the complaints are about what actually was.)
> Instead, users want personalization and prioritization All news sources I can think of implement prioritisation. Do users really want personalisation? Do you remember your Dad saying pre-web "oh, I just want a newspaper personalised to me, so I don't read outside of my core interests" or did he just sometimes read, sometimes skip less immediately-relevant articles? I'm not sure anyone really wants to live in a bubb…
I prefer local news from my neighborhood over news from a neighborhood in another city in another state. I prefer technically detailed articles about software development over technically detailed articles about dog grooming. I choose feeds and sources that filter in my favor.
Your dad always had the option of subscribing to the Wall Street Journal or People if their local paper didn’t cover business or celebrity gossip extensively enough.
Maybe not bubbles all the way down, but it’s close.
Please stop claiming that RSS died, it didn't. Most of the new sites and blogs i come across usually have an RSS feed buried somewhere, so a more apt metaphor would be that it was buried alive, it didn't die. And please stop trying to feature creep RSS, it doesn't need any more "features". I already wrote about this recently: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15675823
Not only sites and blogs, Mailchimp newsletters also support RSS feeds, which means that a lot of newsletters can be consumed by RSS readers. A agree that it never really died, it's just hiding.