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Re: Amazon's policies promote counterfeiting

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Full disclosure I work for Amazon (on the web services side). The author of this article clearly doesn't know much about selling on Amazon, because what he is asking for is possible. It's called the Amazon Brand Registry. You can contact the infringment team using the details here and initiate the process of getting your brand / ASIN locked so that other people can't sell it without your permission: https://www.amazo…

Why is Amazon not actively seeking out patterns of counterfeiters and suggesting this to sellers. Just doing simple image machine learning should get 90% of scammers. He AWS team is great about this. Looking for abnormalities. Looking for posted AWS keys. Proactively. The retail guys need to get some of the cloud guy smarts. Or ethics. Either/or will help stop this. I don’t sell, but I can barely buy from amazon beca…

> Why is Amazon not actively seeking out patterns of counterfeiters and suggesting this to sellers.

Why would any company spend money to decrease their revenue? I have yet to see one company that does not test the boundaries of the legally permissible to maximize profits.

Re: Amazon's policies promote counterfeiting

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I designed a hardware product but haven't brought it to market because even if it is successful, Chinese manufacturers will reverse engineer it and then have a cheaper clone on the market within weeks, long before I can recoup even the cost of manufacturing, let alone make a profit. And since I can't afford to pursue legal action, it seems pointless to manufacture the product, and everybody loses. I wonder how much i…

I wonder how many consumers (not you) complain about counterfeits also whinge about copyright being morally evil.

I bet it's a large contingent.

Re: Amazon's policies promote counterfeiting

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while i agree with your post, "The current counterfeit seller, suiningdonghanjiaju Co Ltd (yeah they sound legit), " could be construed as a racist comment

I think it could be CONSTRUED as a racist comment, but the person thinking of it that way would be really stretching, in my opinion. 1. All of these counterfeit items are coming from China. 2. The legit seller is ElevationLab, which "suiningdonghanjiaju Co Ltd" is not. 3. "suiningdonghanjiaju Co Ltd" is a Chinese name. 4. "suiningdonghanjiaju Co Ltd" is a very customer-unfriendly name -- not something you'd see from…

Incidentally, is "Co Ltd" even a meaningful designation for a Chinese business entity? I usually see it for British or Japanese companies.

Re: Amazon's policies promote counterfeiting

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File a credit card dispute.

That's a great option until you realize they can close your Amazon account for chargebacks, which in my case would mean the loss of thousands of dollars worth of Kindle books.

I didn’t realize that was a thing. Thank you and great point.

Re: Amazon's policies promote counterfeiting

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The writer advises people to "look at the seller," but Amazon's commingling of products means that doing so is often useless. I believe I've also seen mention that there's a way to prevent that by assigning your own numbers and paying Amazon more, but for something like this where there is only one legitimate supplier I'm not sure it would do any good. (edit: NathanKP posted relevant links as I was posting) What's am…

You need not pay Amazon to label your products with your FNSKU to avoid commingling -- sellers can do themselves with a printer and tape. Amazon simply offers the option and charges $0.20/unit to do it.

Re: Amazon's policies promote counterfeiting

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Full disclosure I work for Amazon (on the web services side). The author of this article clearly doesn't know much about selling on Amazon, because what he is asking for is possible. It's called the Amazon Brand Registry. You can contact the infringment team using the details here and initiate the process of getting your brand / ASIN locked so that other people can't sell it without your permission: https://www.amazo…

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Re: Amazon's policies promote counterfeiting

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Amazon is the new eBay as I like to say. Ever try searching for a Chromecast on Amazon? The number of Chinese counterfeits available is staggering. https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_1_6?url=search-alias... And since Amazon profits from these third party sellers they are complicit.

Those don't look like counterfeits.

Of course they do. Not only do they copy the form factor of the version 1 and 2 Chromecasts they also copy the Chromecast logo and even place a G in the middle to further try and trick users. These 1 star reviews of the following copycat show just how easily people think they're buying a real Chromecast.

https://www.amazon.com/product-reviews/B075KDML13/ref=acr_se...

Re: Amazon's policies promote counterfeiting

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That's a great option until you realize they can close your Amazon account for chargebacks, which in my case would mean the loss of thousands of dollars worth of Kindle books.

Good point! I've only bought ~10 Kindle books over the years because DRM, but had been getting more open to it. Then just recently they started delivering ads to the iPad reader as 'notifications' with a red icon that won't go away until you tap to see. They may think that's a minor new feature which they only use occasionally, and which their average user will appreciate. But to me it looks like the start of "I am a…

I don’t buy ebooks, with a few exceptions mostly from Apple.

Check out your library system. My library has an amazing selection of books, usually available in EPUB and Kindle formats. If you live or work in New York State, you can get library cards in many libraries including NYPL. NYPL also lets you access Brooklyn.

Re: Amazon's policies promote counterfeiting

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I have sold on Amazon for about 3 years now, over 2000+ skus FBA. The items I sell are pretty easy to counterfeit (much easier than OPs). There have been plenty of sellers come in and undercut price and subsequently destroy my products ratings because customers received fakes. I started moving my products into the Brand Registry and all of a sudden the counterfeit sellers started disappearing...and now they don't exi…

With so many SKUs, it's easy to relax. OP has nine so one fake seller can wipe out a substantial amount of revenue overnight for her.

Re: Amazon's policies promote counterfeiting

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Why is Amazon not actively seeking out patterns of counterfeiters and suggesting this to sellers. Just doing simple image machine learning should get 90% of scammers. He AWS team is great about this. Looking for abnormalities. Looking for posted AWS keys. Proactively. The retail guys need to get some of the cloud guy smarts. Or ethics. Either/or will help stop this. I don’t sell, but I can barely buy from amazon beca…

> Why is Amazon not actively seeking out patterns of counterfeiters and suggesting this to sellers. Why would any company spend money to decrease their revenue? I have yet to see one company that does not test the boundaries of the legally permissible to maximize profits.

Because it behooves them to be a trustworthy platform for sellers but specially for buyers.

As a buyer I want to know I can trust what I'm buying is what I believe I am buying --and sellers don't want their brands tarneshed. Once bitten twice shy.

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