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Re: Google closes its $1.1B deal with HTC Corp

#131

Post by sumedh »

wor3q wrote: post #130
sumedh wrote: post #129

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You accuse me of switching topic and then go and talk about 3g, how about practice what you preach? Thank you for making my point I, you can do all the marketing you want but in the end you cannot sell a shitty product which Symbian and Windows Mobile learnt the hard way. Apple succeeded because the user experience worked.

No, they succeeded because of aggressive marketing campaign, an example of which I provided. Neither Symbian, nor WP phones had such campaigns, and this is why they got beaten by inferior product. Why do you think Macs stopped selling when Jobs was gone, while ux didn't change? Apples user experience is so bad, that there literally are paid Mac apps that fix their flaws. And they sell. There are no iOS ones, since yo…

Haha looks like you are rabid Apple hater.

You have been so blinded by your hate for Apple that you cannot even accept that all the companies which you mentioned (you forgot to mention Blackberry) could not adapt to a new revolutionary interface. They were so stuck in the past that they refused to move.

> There are no iOS ones, since you cannot customize anything besides wallpaper and ringtone there, everything locked

Hahah that is the Apple way, you have to live in the walled garden, normal people like that. Of Course you won't understand this point.

I think I finally understood why you dont get it, you are looking at this from your selfish perspective, you are not thinking from the average consumer's perspective. Once you see that you will understand why you are wrong.

Let me know if you dont understand I will help you out.

You are wrong again, how many times have you been wrong. I do have top tier Android phone as well.

Re: Google closes its $1.1B deal with HTC Corp

#132

Post by wor3q »

sumedh wrote: post #131
wor3q wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, they succeeded because of aggressive marketing campaign, an example of which I provided. Neither Symbian, nor WP phones had such campaigns, and this is why they got beaten by inferior product. Why do you think Macs stopped selling when Jobs was gone, while ux didn't change? Apples user experience is so bad, that there literally are paid Mac apps that fix their flaws. And they sell. There are no iOS ones, since yo…

Haha looks like you are rabid Apple hater. You have been so blinded by your hate for Apple that you cannot even accept that all the companies which you mentioned (you forgot to mention Blackberry) could not adapt to a new revolutionary interface. They were so stuck in the past that they refused to move. > There are no iOS ones, since you cannot customize anything besides wallpaper and ringtone there, everything locke…

What did you say about personal attacks? Did you just ran out of arguments?

I showed you that there was nothing revolutionary in first iPhone interface. It was copied from others. I even showed you what they ripped off. Yet you blindly blabber about how they invented it.

Your fanboy mind can't comprehend that, maybe cause you did not see background of iPhone evolution.

I understand that people will not buy best performing phone, rather one that is trendy.

And I stated once and again, apple is 99% marketing. They can make phone trendy.

Just admit it already. You have no arguments besides marketing sells phones. Whopping 12% of phones. If their marketing didn't manage to make it a status symbol a while ago, nobody would bother with such minority.

Go on, attack me again, or repeat your revolutionary ripped off user experience again ;)

Re: Google closes its $1.1B deal with HTC Corp

#133

Post by sumedh »

wor3q wrote: post #122
sumedh wrote: post #116

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Some of them are valid complaints. > I have to deal with this 'perfect UX' No one is forcing you to do that, just walk away but we know you are not going to do that.

I was literally forced to buy a mac, and an iPhone, which are idling 90% of time. If I would be able to compile and upload iOS apps on Linux, and run safari to test frontend, I'd toss both of them out the window that second. Microsoft is providing VMs for free if you want to test if stuff works under IE/Edge. Apple is providing a big F you, buy our stuff.

> I was literally forced to buy a mac, and an iPhone, which are idling 90% of time.

You are always free to not buy and just walk away from Apple ecosystem but we all know you are not going to do that.

Re: Google closes its $1.1B deal with HTC Corp

#134

Post by sumedh »

wor3q wrote: post #132
sumedh wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Haha looks like you are rabid Apple hater. You have been so blinded by your hate for Apple that you cannot even accept that all the companies which you mentioned (you forgot to mention Blackberry) could not adapt to a new revolutionary interface. They were so stuck in the past that they refused to move. > There are no iOS ones, since you cannot customize anything besides wallpaper and ringtone there, everything locke…

What did you say about personal attacks? Did you just ran out of arguments? I showed you that there was nothing revolutionary in first iPhone interface. It was copied from others. I even showed you what they ripped off. Yet you blindly blabber about how they invented it. Your fanboy mind can't comprehend that, maybe cause you did not see background of iPhone evolution. I understand that people will not buy best perfo…

I must be the first Apple fanboy who actively uses Windows and Android.

I guess we will agree to disagree, you want to support dinosaurs with revolutionary interface like using a stylus and physical keyboards on a mobile while I don't.

This was a fun conversation but I am not going to reply anymore to a troll :)

Re: Google closes its $1.1B deal with HTC Corp

#135

Post by wor3q »

sumedh wrote: post #134
wor3q wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What did you say about personal attacks? Did you just ran out of arguments? I showed you that there was nothing revolutionary in first iPhone interface. It was copied from others. I even showed you what they ripped off. Yet you blindly blabber about how they invented it. Your fanboy mind can't comprehend that, maybe cause you did not see background of iPhone evolution. I understand that people will not buy best perfo…

I must be the first Apple fanboy who actively uses Windows and Android. I guess we will agree to disagree, you want to support dinosaurs with revolutionary interface like using a stylus and physical keyboards on a mobile while I don't. This was a fun conversation but I am not going to reply anymore to a troll :)

Well as usual, LG Prada had capacitive touchscreen = no stylus and keyboard first. Just to straighten out your false fact for last time.

As homework find something that apple actually invented for once.

Goodnight ;)

Re: Google closes its $1.1B deal with HTC Corp

#136

Post by eanzenberg »

chrisper wrote: post #113
eanzenberg wrote: post #111

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Why would I want to customize it? It's the same reason I stopped using linux between 2010 and 2017 (I just built an Ubuntu box for DL, dual booted with windows ofc). The more "stuff" is abstracted away so I can get done what I need to is ideal for me.

So you would not want to be able to easily just plug in your phone into the PC and transfer files normally without having to install iTunes etc. (and even that can't do it)? You would not want to automate certain things? (Like if you are on work wifi, automatically mute phone for example) You wouldn't want to be able to get OBD II data from your car through your phone? Wouldn't you want to be able to use Firefox with…

No, I really don't have a need to transfer the proverbial "files" straight from my PC to my iphone. I don't need it to be a USB stick. I like that itunes manages my phone. And I have my icloud documents in my phone anyways in case I need them, which I never have.

Re: Google closes its $1.1B deal with HTC Corp

#137

Post by wor3q »

sumedh wrote: post #133
wor3q wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was literally forced to buy a mac, and an iPhone, which are idling 90% of time. If I would be able to compile and upload iOS apps on Linux, and run safari to test frontend, I'd toss both of them out the window that second. Microsoft is providing VMs for free if you want to test if stuff works under IE/Edge. Apple is providing a big F you, buy our stuff.

> I was literally forced to buy a mac, and an iPhone, which are idling 90% of time. You are always free to not buy and just walk away from Apple ecosystem but we all know you are not going to do that.

Like, can you actually read, or are you trolling?

Should I tell my clients that I won't do iOS version of their app and that I don't care that their frontend will not have workarounds for bug ridden Safari?

I didn't have to buy Microsoft hardware to support Edge and Windows Phone.

I didn't have to buy Google hardware to support Android.

I had to buy Apple hardware to support iOS and Safari.

So no, I'm not free to not have a mac standing next to my real computer.

Re: Google closes its $1.1B deal with HTC Corp

#138

Post by sumedh »

wor3q wrote: post #137
sumedh wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I was literally forced to buy a mac, and an iPhone, which are idling 90% of time. You are always free to not buy and just walk away from Apple ecosystem but we all know you are not going to do that.

Like, can you actually read, or are you trolling? Should I tell my clients that I won't do iOS version of their app and that I don't care that their frontend will not have workarounds for bug ridden Safari? I didn't have to buy Microsoft hardware to support Edge and Windows Phone. I didn't have to buy Google hardware to support Android. I had to buy Apple hardware to support iOS and Safari. So no, I'm not free to not…

Oh hey you are back for more trolling.

Let me repeat what I said in a different way.

You can vote with your wallet but we both know you are not going to do that.

Dont bother trolling again. Thanks

Re: Google closes its $1.1B deal with HTC Corp

#139

Post by dang »

wor3q wrote: post #137
sumedh wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I was literally forced to buy a mac, and an iPhone, which are idling 90% of time. You are always free to not buy and just walk away from Apple ecosystem but we all know you are not going to do that.

Like, can you actually read, or are you trolling? Should I tell my clients that I won't do iOS version of their app and that I don't care that their frontend will not have workarounds for bug ridden Safari? I didn't have to buy Microsoft hardware to support Edge and Windows Phone. I didn't have to buy Google hardware to support Android. I had to buy Apple hardware to support iOS and Safari. So no, I'm not free to not…

> Like, can you actually read, or are you trolling?

This sort of thing will get you banned here. Please read https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and don't post like this again.

Re: Google closes its $1.1B deal with HTC Corp

#140

Post by dang »

sumedh wrote: post #138
wor3q wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like, can you actually read, or are you trolling? Should I tell my clients that I won't do iOS version of their app and that I don't care that their frontend will not have workarounds for bug ridden Safari? I didn't have to buy Microsoft hardware to support Edge and Windows Phone. I didn't have to buy Google hardware to support Android. I had to buy Apple hardware to support iOS and Safari. So no, I'm not free to not…

Oh hey you are back for more trolling. Let me repeat what I said in a different way. You can vote with your wallet but we both know you are not going to do that. Dont bother trolling again. Thanks

> Oh hey you are back for more trolling.

This sort of thing will get you banned here. Please read https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and don't post like this again.

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