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Re: MacBook Pro? No

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Post by jvzr »

atmosx wrote: post #6

I have the exact opposite experience so far. By all means, this is a professional laptop in my opinion. To expand a bit: - I love the keyboard, best I've seen on a laptop (I'm a 80+ WPM typist) - I don't have issues with the touchbar, getting used to quickly manage apps like spotify. - My default editor is vim and don't have issues with escape - Trackpad is the best I've seen on a laptop - The machine is fast - The s…

Anecdotal data for “I love it so far” here, too.

My MBP is a 2016 model, decked-out 13-inch. I can't say I love the Touch Bar but I don't dislike it either. It works fine. I wished the Touch ID sensor was used for more dialogs–some don't use it and I can't understand why. The keyboard is great, love it. The touchpad is awesome, absolutely love it. The screen is amazing. The battery life is OK (I wished it was better but I come from crappy laptops so it is much, much better than what I already know).

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Post by deanclatworthy »

manmal wrote: post #75
atmosx wrote: post #6

I have the exact opposite experience so far. By all means, this is a professional laptop in my opinion. To expand a bit: - I love the keyboard, best I've seen on a laptop (I'm a 80+ WPM typist) - I don't have issues with the touchbar, getting used to quickly manage apps like spotify. - My default editor is vim and don't have issues with escape - Trackpad is the best I've seen on a laptop - The machine is fast - The s…

How long have you been using it? The keyboard keys getting stuck seems to be a fairly common problem. I think it stems from dirt getting stuck beneath the edges. I had the „k“ key not respond at all for a few days, then I furiously scratched along the edges with a finger nail, and after that it always registered two key strokes (better than none at all). After some weeks, functionality returned to normal. The escape…

I'll add my anecdotal experience to this too. I had to have the whole keyboard replace on mine last week because of a stuck b-key. Fortunately it was still under warranty through work. As of last night some miniscule crumb has got behind the up-arrow key and I have the same problem again.

Re: MacBook Pro? No

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Post by manmal »

unwind wrote: post #115
manmal wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How long have you been using it? The keyboard keys getting stuck seems to be a fairly common problem. I think it stems from dirt getting stuck beneath the edges. I had the „k“ key not respond at all for a few days, then I furiously scratched along the edges with a finger nail, and after that it always registered two key strokes (better than none at all). After some weeks, functionality returned to normal. The escape…

So, uh, you just kkept using the computer even though a common kkey was brokken, for two weekks?!! And then it healed itself so that's no biggie? Makes me wonder about your workflow. I write code and would have been in a (silent, I'm from Sweden) rage in a day or less. Holding out for so long with a major fault seems very forgiving.

You bet I was in rage. I told everyone about it, and ranted on Twitter. I‘m a coder too, you know. But we have no Apple store in Austria, just certified partners, and they all were like „Uhm, we don’t dare try fix this.. we have to send it in. Or do you want a new keyboard? That would be €€€ and you have to leave your machine here with us for a couple days“. Since I have no portable backup machine, I decided to stick it out instead - I thought it might fix itself since it seemed to have to do with dirt beneath the edges. Patient? Yes. Forgiving? Not so much.

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Post by daveFNbuck »

buildbot wrote: post #56

Devils Advocate Response to this: If the keyboard is failing on a 2016, take advantage of Apple's stores and get it replaced under warranty and with far less hassle than say, Dell with an XPS 15 and failed motherboard. (From experience with both.) Battery life is typically quoted at 5 hours doing something relatively intensive, and 6-7 in general for the 15 inch. 4 hours must be heavy, high CPU and GPU use. I'm not s…

> Would a real pro machine have this port? Probably. Does it make the macbook pro not a pro machine? Doubtful.

If a real pro machine would have the port, then the macbook pro is not a real pro machine. How can you get probably for the first question but not for the second?

Re: MacBook Pro? No

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Post by coldtea »

macp wrote: post #76
chrisper wrote: post #26

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>but the main reason to buy is the OS Is that still true? I feel like that argument is vanishing more and more these days.

Some Linux distributions are very competitive nowadays, with many desktop environments to choose from. A key reason to own a Mac would be to build iOS apps and MacOS software.

Or you know, to have a UNIX, but also a nice just-works-most-of-the-time desktop UI, device support (for stuff like external audio interfaces, scanners, etc) and access to all kinds of proprietary pro apps, from Above and Microsoft to whatever.

Re: MacBook Pro? No

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Post by eloisant »

macp wrote: post #76
chrisper wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>but the main reason to buy is the OS Is that still true? I feel like that argument is vanishing more and more these days.

Some Linux distributions are very competitive nowadays, with many desktop environments to choose from. A key reason to own a Mac would be to build iOS apps and MacOS software.

In general I prefer Linux, but the synergy you get from macOS and the hardware, for energy management in particular, is yet to see on Linux.

Re: MacBook Pro? No

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Post by SPBS »

shabble wrote: post #99
314 wrote: post #85

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Ctrl-c does the same and it is easier to press.

it's not 100% equivalent, for example C-v (select visual block), I, ..., C-c will cancel the block prepend action, whereas esc or C-[ will execute it. Took me a while to realise that when messing around with visual/block. I still mostly use C-c from muscle memory though, but do occasionally swear at it.

I see this caveat all the time, why don't people just rebind C-c to Esc and be done with it

Re: MacBook Pro? No

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Post by mthoms »

bogomipz wrote: post #47

I am a former new MBP owner who concurs with all of this. I would have actually considered looking past everything in this author's list with the exception of the keyboard. At first I thought it was just my fingers adjusting to the new keyboards after years of a previous generation. But after almost 6 months of not adjusting I gave it up and sold it. You have to bank pretty hard on the keys and they have this horribl…

I felt like this about the keyboard for about 4-5 months. Now that I'm totally used to it, I prefer it over the old style keyboard.

The old style keyboard now feels mushy and clumsy to me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Re: MacBook Pro? No

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Post by pavlov »

YetAnotherNick wrote: post #106
pavlov wrote: post #25

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The next model won’t change the port layout or the keyboard. Apple just doesn’t work like that. A redesign of the MBP isn’t due for years, and no amount of negative feedback will change that. (Look at the Mac Pro for a concrete example of this.)

I get what you are saying, buy Mac Pro is a bad example in this case. I think it's the only bad example here.

Really? When did Apple turn on a dime to bring out a refresh to a poorly received model?

The 2002 iMac G4 (the "sunflower") was discontinued in June 2005 without a replacement in place. It wasn't until the end of the year that Apple brought out a redesigned iMac. If they could have introduced a new iMac faster, they certainly would have -- today it's almost inconceivable that they didn't have a consumer desktop for sale during much of 2005.

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