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Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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Plenty of great email, contacts and calendar services out there, you just need to pay for them. I went with FastMail and it’s been absolutely painless.

Any recommendations for a Google Drive replacement?

I use [https://syncthing.net/](Syncthing) because it's serverless, works on various Linuxes and Android, pretty easy to set up, and I trust it.

I trust it because I can get it from 3rd-party repos — Debian, Fedora, F-Droid — and I trust that they wouldn't all allow malicious software that claims all communication is encrypted.

Syncthing's forum uses Discourse. The whole thing just smells of competence.

Of course, it may not suit you.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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Now if they only did respect user privacy! Still every Firefox user gets a never-expiring google cookie by default, a practice that is going on now for many years! Also cookies are accepted from everywhere and last forever by default without user consent, overriding the freedom of internet users in a brutal and privacy destroying way. It is a great bigbrotheristic marketing lie by mozilla to obscure this anti-privacy…

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Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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Now if they only did respect user privacy! Still every Firefox user gets a never-expiring google cookie by default, a practice that is going on now for many years! Also cookies are accepted from everywhere and last forever by default without user consent, overriding the freedom of internet users in a brutal and privacy destroying way. It is a great bigbrotheristic marketing lie by mozilla to obscure this anti-privacy…

This is disingenuous. I assume you’re referring to the safe browsing service, which is run by Google and protects users from phishing and malware sites. In Firefox the requests made to Google's safe browsing are sent using a completely separate cookie jar that is isolated from the rest of the browser, so that even if Google is tracking the requests to its safe browsing service it wouldn't be able to identify you on the basis of the unique cookie alone. Of course if you’re still uncomfortable with this you can always turn it off.

I don’t know where the claims for permanent cookies comes from. Cookies have expiration dates like all other browsers and can be cleared by the user. I in fact use an add on that clears cookies on tab close except for a set of whitelisted sites.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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Now if they only did respect user privacy! Still every Firefox user gets a never-expiring google cookie by default, a practice that is going on now for many years! Also cookies are accepted from everywhere and last forever by default without user consent, overriding the freedom of internet users in a brutal and privacy destroying way. It is a great bigbrotheristic marketing lie by mozilla to obscure this anti-privacy…

I'm a big weirdo and have all my cookies set to delete every time I close the browser, but, importantly, I recognize that I'm weird.

I think the vast majority of people want their cookies to stay around, especially so they can close and open the browser again and still be logged into whatever services they use. Yes, they could explicatively set it for each site, but why do so when they'd want to stay logged in?

A super-restrictive cookie policy would suit me just fine, but I think it would annoy a ton of users.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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Fake news is a distinct category of story that is easily quantified. It is a real problem that the United States faces and if we don't attempt to combat it, discourse will suffer. Since you're a fan of Wikipedia articles, try reading this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fake_news_websites_in_the_Unit...

ok. read the whole article. and i understood you right off the bat just fine. you want to block fiction from the internet. specifically, political fiction. and to be really generous, more specifically, political fiction with a certain intent. now. who gets to arbitrate what is "political"? who gets to arbitrate what is "fiction"? who gets to arbitrate someone else's "intent"? Clinton? Trump? Bezos? Huffington? pick y…

We need to insist only on excellent public education. And then in aggregate, people can figure out what is fake. The problem is we're combining mediocre education, with propaganda specifically designed to work on the weak minded. And so it succeeds.

A vastly bigger problem than fake news, is how we've all sat on our collective asses as Democratic and Republican parties have sabotaged voting districts with gerrymandering and the Electoral College by giving those seats to party loyalists, not better people.

This is not at all the system we have. http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/fed68.asp

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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The speed increase in Firefox has been something I haven't seen in a browser update for years.

It reminds me of Phoenix (to become Firefox), and how much of an improvement it was over the Mozilla browser. It makes me wonder where things went wrong, as I recall the Firefox of ~2005 being snappier than the one of ~2015. The only discrete drop in performance that I can remember was the addition of the AwesomeBar (which was worth it, but it really annoyed me at the time that just typing in an address became sluggi…

> It makes me wonder where things went wrong, as I recall the Firefox of ~2005 being snappier than the one of ~2015.

If you visit any page made in 2005 with any recent browser it will be unbelievably fast. Pages became more bloated in the last decade because they could.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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Anyone have thoughts on the opt-out telemetry default? I had to read the privacy notice they open on start to find out that telemetry was enabled by default.

My gut reaction was to be suspicious of Mozilla, but then I remembered that they're Mozilla. They're probably just trying to figure out which features are confusing for users. It's strange because we do this type of tracking in all facets of webapps, but desktop apps trigger our suspicion meter.

> My gut reaction was to be suspicious of Mozilla, but then I remembered that they're Mozilla.

Mozilla's track record of software that aligns with FLOSS principles makes me trust them when they release new software which they claim aligns with FLOSS principles.

But if Mozilla engages in what you call "suspicious behavior," it seems like a bad idea to assume that it's ok because of Mozilla's track record. In fact, I'd go in the other direction and say that suspicious behavior from Mozilla is enough of an anomaly that you should pay more attention to it, not less.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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I always wondered why they branded Chromecast with Chrome, it has almost nothing to do with a browser besides the funny gimmick where you could show a web page through it. Maybe an implementation detail. I suppose I get it now. It was originally just branding to promote a Chrome monopoly, and now it's an artificial exclusive feature. I love the idea of Chromecast but it's sad that it's still so closed off.

What does the Condé Nast CMS have to do with Chromecast (or other bits of Chrome branding strategy)?

Nothing specifically. I was expanding the specific comment on an instance of Chrome-only compatibility into a general comment on other things Google has been doing to expand it's Chrome monopoly. Maybe the topic deserves a top level comment, sorry if it's placement offended your sensibilities.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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I find something is off with Firefox Quantum, possibly the font rendering and it hurts my eyes. Running Chrome 62 on OSX 10.11.6 and it is fine. I had similar problems with Chrome on Windows after they implemented DirectWrite with anti aliasing.

I feel the same too!

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