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Google Kills Wave

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Re: Google Kills Wave

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post #27

What suprises me is the short lifespan of the product to the public before killing it. While some of us may have had Wave invites for a while, it has been only been open to the public for less then 3 months.

And the vast majority don't even know that it exists.

Re: Google Kills Wave

#132

It failed because it was completely invisible. Facebook spams your inbox. They make sure you know that you have an account and that people are trying to reach you (or tell the world about their cat, etc). With wave, it's silent. There was activity on a wave I was following in January. I found out about it in March. Someone replied to something I said on July 21st. I'm only just finding out now . What kind of a commun…

They should have added a small but visible "new blip" icon to Gmail. That would have gone a long way, and nobody would have complained about spamming.

I bet the Wave and GMail teams have some animosity between them, and neither wants to help the other, even though officially they're "playing for the same team".

Re: Google Kills Wave

#133
post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it's not like twitter ever sends/sent an email when someone you follow tweets.

Twitter is ephemeral. You can quite easily leave it for a month and miss nothing important. Nobody will care, nobody will miss you. Twitter will continue to function as long as people have egos, which is to say forever. (not trying to bash twitter here even though it sounds like it.) Wave is quite different. It's designed for conversations and collaboration. In order for it to function, users need to be able to know…

I feel the same way about Twitter, but still it seems like Twitter bashing. You're not proving a point in your first paragraph, merely your opinion. This is especially true with the "leave it for a month and miss nothing important". I'm sure some people (not me) would feel quite differently.

Re: Google Kills Wave

#134
post #29

Kudos to Google for understanding this and cutting their losses (relatively) early. I remember reading about their effort to cut down on useless products and focusing on the core search/AdWords/Gmail/etc, this is the effect of that. I really hope Buzz is next.

The complement of Release Early/Often is probably Kill Early/Often. EDIT: spelling fixed, thanks!

You know what the complement of Kill Early/Often is? It's me never letting my shop use a new Google product ever again.

People invest time in adopting these technologies. Sure, with a little startup you take into account the fact that they might not be able to survive, but with Google you think hey, okay, let's use this thing. And you start developing your process around it. And then you get burned when it gets dropped with "Oh well we lost interest, okay we love you, bye bye!".

So today, my guys would have been better off sticking with their lousy wiki that having switched to Wave (despite the fact that they liked it and felt it increased their productivity - personally, I never warmed up to it).

Fool me once...

Re: Google Kills Wave

#136
post #4

I feel bad for the Etherpad guys, who as I understand it, sold AppJet to Google to work on Google Wave: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=977015

who as I understand it, sold AppJet to Google to work on Google Wave somehow i don't think they need your sympathies ... they probably got a decent amount of money from their acquisition, so they're probably not crying right now ;)

What's cooler:

1) a smallish hunk of cash

2) a thriving enterprise built around your vision for improving how people communicate

The Etherpad sellout was, and is, the most disappointing acquisition I can remember.

Re: Google Kills Wave

#138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, you're right, but "albeit" is the word you're looking for, not "all be it".

http://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=albeit&oldid=...

Interesting, but dictionary.com and m-w.com claim that it's a contraction of "al(though) be it".

  * http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/albeit
  * http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/albeit

Re: Google Kills Wave

#139
Understandable, but still a shame.

We've got a wave going with about 14 people planning our trips to Ruby Kaigi in a few weeks. It's working really well and has definitely provided value that would be tricky to find elsewhere.

Could Wave have worked better if it targeted a vertical? Or is that not how Google does things?

Re: Google Kills Wave

#140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They launched Wave in May of 2009. It's not like they yanked it all that quickly.

Microsoft announced, then released, spent $250M on advertising, and then killed a new phone in that time.

Microsoft made $250M profit yesterday.
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