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Some Instacart workers to strike over pay that can be as low as $1 per hour

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Re: Some Instacart workers to strike over pay that can be as low as $1 per hour

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Post by zulln »

_m8fo wrote: post #31
zulln wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That would however mean the delivery person will believe you intend to tip zero until you actually do. Not discussing whether it is right or not, but I assume that could affect the received service.

Given that the vast majority of situations in which you tip (notably waiters, waitresses and other staff) result in the tip being given after service, and not before, I'm OK with that.

Absolutely, but there is one main difference: in those scenarios you do not communicate the tipping beforehand. A more similar scenario would be to go to a restaurant, annouce that you will pay no tip, and then when you leave change your mind.

The delivery person will be able to see your intentions of tipping zero, as nothing else is communicated.

Re: Some Instacart workers to strike over pay that can be as low as $1 per hour

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Post by cstejerean »

eropple wrote: post #128
cstejerean wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, if only some restaurants in an area do this. But what if they all did it?

I'm not trying to jump on you, but I rarely find "what if"-inging collective action problems to be a particularly useful mode of thinking. "What if"--but they won't, so perturb not those electrons and stick to the real, yeah?

You are missing the point. Changing the law forces all restaurants to play by those rules. If only a handful of restaurants decide to pay livable wages and therefore raise their prices then their competitors will be cheaper. So we know this doesn’t work well. But if minimum wage rises for all restaurants then they will all be on a level playing field. That was the “what if” I was referring to.

Let me give you another example. If one or two car dealerships decide they don’t want to be open on Sundays then their competitors will get that business. So everyone is forced to be open both days to be competitive. But what if all dealers were closed on Sunday? Well, in that case consumers would be forced to do all their car shopping on a Saturday and nobody would lose any business. So this is exactly what happened in Texas. The dealers lobbied to make sure car dealerships can only be open one day per weekend (either Saturday or Sunday, but in practice they all chose Saturday to be open). So that’s the value of asking “what if”.

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