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Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo

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Re: Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo

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One less white male on the team, diversity needle is moving in the right direction.

Everyone reading this that doesn't buy into the forced mandated groupthink... look here and see what the future holds. This is the ultimate goal.

The people claim to be for tolerance and diversity, but really, they are just angry bitter race-obsessed and gender-obsessed political activists.

It's going to get worse before it gets better...

Re: Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo

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Re: Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo

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This is starting to be scary. Instead of government companies are acting as thought police. I think a lot of people will watch what they are saying publicly from now on.

When you do/say/write something that has the potential to cause problems for your employer, you should be aware of and prepared for the possible consequences.

I certainly would not write a multi-page screed criticizing the policies and practices of my employer, distribute it at work, and then expect to keep my job or have no repercussions.

Re: Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo

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Fun fact: the author of the memo earned a PhD in Biology from Harvard. Google can fire him and get away with it, but it's going to be tough, very tough, for him to be falsely characterized as someone who is misinformed or unscientific. And the court of public opinion may well be more important in this controversy than any court of law.

When I was in academia there was no shortage of my peers with PhDs in physics who were very religious. Having a PhD in a science is not proof against having misinformed or unscientific views.

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Re: Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo

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Fun fact: the author of the memo earned a PhD in Biology from Harvard. Google can fire him and get away with it, but it's going to be tough, very tough, for him to be falsely characterized as someone who is misinformed or unscientific. And the court of public opinion may well be more important in this controversy than any court of law.

Having a phd in biology doesn't prevent someone from being wrong

I didn't say he was infallible by merit of a specialized academic degree. He could very well be wrong, but the fact that he has a PhD in Biology from a top Ivy League school should at least give his thesis academic plausibility (even among those who strongly disagree) and allow for the possibility of reasoned debate over the issue instead of a politically-correct witch hunt.

Re: Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo

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Fun fact: the author of the memo earned a PhD in Biology from Harvard. Google can fire him and get away with it, but it's going to be tough, very tough, for him to be falsely characterized as someone who is misinformed or unscientific. And the court of public opinion may well be more important in this controversy than any court of law.

Well to judge him on his merits and not his credentials, the memo was neither rigorously argued or all that persuasive.

It is ironic that defenders who claim to want a meritocracy are also defending the author because of where he went to school.

Re: Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo

#138

The author's arguments have been completely misrepresented. He pointed out widely-believed and sometimes scientifically-established differences in the DISTRIBUTION OF traits in men and women. He said that those differences make attempts to achieve numerical parity misguided, discriminatory, and harmful. What is his conclusion about how we should behave? "Treat people as individuals, not as just another member of thei…

Since you more or less pasted your comment from the other thread, I'll TLDR my same reply: The claims in this document are FAR from "widely-believed" or "scientifically established". By count, most of his claims are just asserted. But even most of the claims with a link are highly debatable. This is NOT a particularly good advocacy document on the core scientific questions surrounding inequality. It may have some poi…

By count, most of his claims are just asserted.

Most of the links in the original document were removed, either by Gizmodo or the leaker.

But even most of the claims with a link are highly debatable.

Although apparently you are in fact not allowed to debate them...

Re: Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo

#139
So, stating true, scientifically verified facts that challenge Google's official political ideology is now a fireable offence.

This is insane. The speed at which this ideology has taken over SV is breathtaking, and a massive disincentive for anyone not already so inclined to work there.

Re: Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo

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This is starting to be scary. Instead of government companies are acting as thought police. I think a lot of people will watch what they are saying publicly from now on.

You don't think the generalizations against women were scary?

Not really. A lot of people have weird views. Based on this Google can't hire any conservative Christians either.

I just don't think this should be a firing offense.

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