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Re: Gitter is open source

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Post by owebmaster »

jsiepkes wrote: post #17

While I applaud the initiative of Gitlab to opensource Gitter I think the target audience for self hosting is rather small. I think alternatives like Zulip or Mattermost are probably better suited for most organizations. I am however interested to see if the community starts making the "main instance" (gitter.im) better. Interested to know what the Gitlab / Gitter guys and gals think what the target audience is.

They are creating the infrastructure for some kind of projects that currently don't exist. Local / national Githubs/software communities might be a thing soon, and Gitlab will be powering it if happens.

Re: Gitter is open source

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Post by lbotos »

notsrg wrote: post #123

Gitter is a great idea in theory. In practice it's just been a place for my questions to go unanswered.

This sounds like more of a problem of the projects that you are interacting with more so than the platform?

I could say the same thing about many IRC channels, heck, even the internet in general.

Re: Gitter is open source

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Post by owebmaster »

kronos29296 wrote: post #70
kobeya wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You say that as if it's a good thing...

IRC is not going anywhere but projects like neovim use gitter primarily while IRC is linked using a bot. They view the IRC chat in gitter. Dunno if Gitter is better than IRC as I have only used for help and support (for me) but Gitter was far easier to use than IRC. Just Login and start chatting. I don't think IRC is going anywhere either... We just have alternatives to freenode now in Gitter

> IRC is not going anywhere

I don't know if this still holds true. I've been a IRC user for ~20 years and the current state is a fraction of the fraction of it was once before. Compared with the entire internet, it can already be considered irrelevant, imo.

Re: Gitter is open source

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Post by leesalminen »

lloeki wrote: post #90
romanovcode wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was talking about GitLab, not Gitter. Yes it's rude, but I want to love GitLab - it's amazing. However I just can't bring myself over with this UI. It's just too bad and too unintuitive. Also slow.

> Also slow. Only on gitlab.com, on prem here it flies .

Same here. Extremely fast on a 4GB VM.

Re: Gitter is open source

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Post by jononor »

heartbreak wrote: post #111
jononor wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If people check in their node_modules, that's a good sign to stay away from the project.

What? Why? Why shouldn't I be able to run my entire application without relying on 3rd party distribution channels? Caching my dependencies in node_modules is perfectly reasonable to me. It's not like I'm getting binary diffs. It's Javascript.

Caching node_modules is fine, but not in the mainline branches of your source control. Let your CI system put it somewhere, after it passed tests. Tarball, a dedicated git repo/branch, Docker image or whatever else is practical.

Re: Gitter is open source

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Post by jononor »

jononor wrote: post #135
heartbreak wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What? Why? Why shouldn't I be able to run my entire application without relying on 3rd party distribution channels? Caching my dependencies in node_modules is perfectly reasonable to me. It's not like I'm getting binary diffs. It's Javascript.

Caching node_modules is fine, but not in the mainline branches of your source control. Let your CI system put it somewhere, after it passed tests. Tarball, a dedicated git repo/branch, Docker image or whatever else is practical.

To control versions of dependencies pull in, narrow your specifiers in package.json, verify that the deps use semver sanely, and consider a lockfile. https://docs.npmjs.com/files/package-locks

Re: Gitter is open source

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Post by gedrap »

notsrg wrote: post #123

Gitter is a great idea in theory. In practice it's just been a place for my questions to go unanswered.

Personally, I don't think that it's even a right format for questions which are not part of a larger discussion (e.g. deciding on details of some issue or PR).

I have never seen link to gitter in google search results, and answers vanishing forever (not sure how good gitter search is though) does not sound good. Once I joined a few channels because I wanted to ask maintainers a quick question if $xyz sounds feasible or am I strongly misunderstanding things, because had some ideas how I could contribute. These were rather popular repos and all channels were full of low effort questions that could be either google-able or answered by spending a few minutes playing around.

Re: Gitter is open source

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Post by bikezen »

jsiepkes wrote: post #17

While I applaud the initiative of Gitlab to opensource Gitter I think the target audience for self hosting is rather small. I think alternatives like Zulip or Mattermost are probably better suited for most organizations. I am however interested to see if the community starts making the "main instance" (gitter.im) better. Interested to know what the Gitlab / Gitter guys and gals think what the target audience is.

Self-hosting market isn't that small. The entire gov/aerospace/anything with ITAR/ETAR etc is stuck with very few options that are self-hosted or fedramp approved cloud options.

Re: Gitter is open source

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Post by accnt »

notsrg wrote: post #123

Gitter is a great idea in theory. In practice it's just been a place for my questions to go unanswered.

That doesn't sound like a Gitter issue but a lack of activity in that particular project/community.

Some projects prefer email/github issues over chat as there isn't an active community around it 24/7 for anyone to just jump in and ask away.

I maintain an open source project where we have set up Gitter awhile ago. So far -even with a really small community like ours- I'm answering questions and interacting with users regularly.

Re: Gitter is open source

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Post by bdcravens »

siliconc0w wrote: post #8

Asking users to run mongo, es, neo4j, and redis is a tall order. Mattermost just needs (AFAIK) a relational database. Also, less relevant but the Gitlab UI has far too much wasted whitespace. Like 85% of the page is navigation. I like open source competitors to incumbents but maybe just copy Github here - no one is gonna say anything.

> Asking users to run mongo, es, neo4j, and redis is a tall order

They do provide a docker-compose.yml, which you can use in Docker Swarm, ECS, etc to stand up the entire stack.

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