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My Failed Attempt at Engineering Love

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Re: My Failed Attempt at Engineering Love

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> I’m a fat, bald, short guy whose only quality is that he isn’t an ax murderer... But I’m bad at small talk, and I jump too fast to intellectual conversations, making it awkward. None of the engineering addressed root causes. Solve the confidence first, and then hack your way to a better physique, and maybe pick up some interests that are universal and easy to chat about.

>> ...isn't an ax murderer...

> ...hack your way to a better physique...

Got it. Buying an axe ASAP... ~

Re: My Failed Attempt at Engineering Love

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"Extracurricular activities? Sure, but the number of single women at these things tends to be pretty small," Different extracurricular activities? Like dancing class or climbing - both being social and popular among women.

It's said that it's a very bad idea to do that. Women go to those activities to have fun, not for single guys to hit on them.

That is true. But I think that part of secret is to find activity you genuinely like on itself and then not hit every girl that talks to you. Instead, just socialise, do activity, observe people and ask a girl that looks like long term material based on previous non dating non hitting interactions.

Basically, do selection before you date them - that is what meeting girl "naturally" is. Most girls are not good long term match for most dudes - hitting at random is bound to fail many times (unless you are super accommodating type able to adjust to anybody).

Re: My Failed Attempt at Engineering Love

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>online dating is one of the most nihilistic enterprises >approaching people you're attracted to (not on the street you pua twats) is one of the few "scary" things still available to us as denizens of modernity Online dating is good for people who simply have NO other avenue to meet people. If you're not supposed to try to pick up people on the street, then where would you apply this advice? Work? I don't know about…

"Extracurricular activities? Sure, but the number of single women at these things tends to be pretty small," Different extracurricular activities? Like dancing class or climbing - both being social and popular among women.

I'm going to echo what the other guy said: going into an activity like that just to pick up chicks is not both insulting to the women there (they didn't go there just to get hit on by single men), and not really that helpful for you: you're essentially lying, by claiming this is an activity you also enjoy, when you really don't and you're just there to meet women. (If you really did enjoy it, you'd already be doing it.)

Re: My Failed Attempt at Engineering Love

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>online dating is one of the most nihilistic enterprises >approaching people you're attracted to (not on the street you pua twats) is one of the few "scary" things still available to us as denizens of modernity Online dating is good for people who simply have NO other avenue to meet people. If you're not supposed to try to pick up people on the street, then where would you apply this advice? Work? I don't know about…

> Online dating is good for people who simply have NO other avenue to meet people Like everything, in moderation it works great. I'm a male software engineer and can relate to your feelings of not being able to meet single women naturally. But relying exclusively on online dating is kinda... uncreative. You mentioned bars. But also: coffee shops. Art shows. Music festivals. When used in conjunction, Online dating is…

>But also: coffee shops.

I've spent plenty of time in coffee shops. I've had a number of first dates there too. I have never seen anyone introduce themselves to someone in a coffee shop, unless it was obvious that they were planning to meet there. Instead, most people I see there are busy: they're either with a friend(s), or they're busy working on their computer. They're not there to get picked up. If I were a woman, I'd be annoyed if I couldn't go to a coffee shop and relax without a bunch of men hitting on me.

>Music festivals.

If you don't share the same taste in music, that's going to be a problem. The concerts I go to are filled with men. Besides, I've never been to a concert where people were walking around mingling and meeting each other; they were there to listen to the music, not socialize.

Re: My Failed Attempt at Engineering Love

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The women in the South are generally far more religious and conservative. West-coast men might not be too interested in that stuff. The "friendlier culture" of the South thing is a myth. They're not that friendly to people who don't fit their preferred mold. Source: grew up in the South. There's a reason so many young people move out of the South as soon as they can.

> The "friendlier culture" of the South thing is a myth. They're not that friendly to people who don't fit their preferred mold. Heh... Ain't that the truth. Completely anecdotally, I got a LOT more Tinder matches when I was in the West/East Coast than in my home state of Texas (I'm a Nonwhite Male).

Having lived in the South long enough to mildly dislike it, I wouldn't say that Southerners are friendly. They are polite, and only when someone whose opinion they may care about is around. Midwesterners are more apt to be friendly, but with far less concern for politeness.

Southern conversation:

  A:  You know, B, we have been friends for a long time.
  A:  I think you ought to know: I'm homosexual.
  B:  Oh, bless your heart.  Thank you for telling me.
  B:  I'm gonna pray for you, A.
  B:  [never speaks to A again]
Midwest conversation:

  A:  You know, B, we have been friends for a long time.
  A:  I think you ought to know: I'm homosexual.
  B:  No duh.  When was the last time you looked at yourself?
  B:  Why do you think the rest of us call you "Mothball"?
  B:  Stays in the closet, and also stinks.
  B:  Guess we'll have to come up with something else now.
  A:  You're a great friend, Farticus.

Re: My Failed Attempt at Engineering Love

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post #100

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> Online dating is good for people who simply have NO other avenue to meet people Like everything, in moderation it works great. I'm a male software engineer and can relate to your feelings of not being able to meet single women naturally. But relying exclusively on online dating is kinda... uncreative. You mentioned bars. But also: coffee shops. Art shows. Music festivals. When used in conjunction, Online dating is…

>But also: coffee shops. I've spent plenty of time in coffee shops. I've had a number of first dates there too. I have never seen anyone introduce themselves to someone in a coffee shop, unless it was obvious that they were planning to meet there. Instead, most people I see there are busy: they're either with a friend(s), or they're busy working on their computer. They're not there to get picked up. If I were a woman…

> If you don't share the same taste in music, that's going to be a problem. The concerts I go to are filled with men. Besides, I've never been to a concert where people were walking around mingling and meeting each other; they were there to listen to the music, not socialize.

I don't disagree. It can be hard to find activities which are popular with both sexes. I don't really know what to tell you, except that, I'm sorry you didn't luck out in being interested in any of those activities. I would suggest trying to develop a taste for other activities, but I don't think its in my place to ask you to do anything :). I am after all a stranger on the internet.

> I've spent plenty of time in coffee shops. I've had a number of first dates there too. I have never seen anyone introduce themselves to someone in a coffee shop, unless it was obvious that they were planning to meet there. Instead, most people I see there are busy: they're either with a friend(s), or they're busy working on their computer. They're not there to get picked up. If I were a woman, I'd be annoyed if I couldn't go to a coffee shop and relax without a bunch of men hitting on me.

I agree here as well. If you read my other comment, you will see that most of my interactions are incidental, not forced. Its hard to explain, but you have to develop a certain social awareness and curiosity.

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