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Re: Windows 10 Enterprise ignores various privacy settings

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Post by AimHere »

dvtv75 wrote: post #85
sathackr wrote: post #52

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Been on Ubuntu for a bit over a year now. Steam works great, and LibreOffice has been good enough to get the job done. I run Google Earth Pro and Sketchup in Wine, even World of Warcraft runs quite well in Wine. I had a ton of issues with Wine until I found PlayOnLinux. Things still don't quite 'just work' -- but I've been able to use way more than I could before I found it. KSP and WoW are my two big games, and they…

I had never heard of PlayOnLinux until now. Installed - thanks for the tip! KSP and Rimworld are my two big games, at least KSP will be again when I get a replacement video card.

You're in luck - you don't even need wine for either of those games since they're Linux-native.

Re: Windows 10 Enterprise ignores various privacy settings

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Post by ximeng »

sathackr wrote: post #76
benjaminjackman wrote: post #64

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I switched about 10 years ago. Before that I was windows 100% on desktop. I had similar issues at first but gradually became pretty comfortable with Ubuntu and Linux in general. Some things are more of a pain and may always be in Linux but overall the experience for me has been that things have been getting easier with time. I think that for better or worse as more applications move to the web the change will be easi…

I don't mind the questions at all. I hope you didn't want the TL;DR version. Some of my pain points. Many probably have solutions, but I'm stuck between spending time dealing with it the way it is, and spending time finding a solution. These are not in any particular order: 1. Serial communication(terminal, for interfacing with console ports). I tried a few programs that didn't really work right away, and settled on…

Alt ` (backtick) switches between Windows in the same app for me - maybe not ideal but might help.

Re: Windows 10 Enterprise ignores various privacy settings

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Post by mysterypie »

cwyers wrote: post #127
mysterypie wrote: post #124

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> pretty shoddy security researcher that doesn't read the documentation What an unnecessary insult. If you can read the incredibly confusing Microsoft documentation better than him (or any of us), then please post the definitive step-by-step instructions for turning off all telemetry and privacy-invasive connections in Windows 10. Then we'll see if your insult was warranted.

So, I search for "teredo group policy" and here's the second link I find, a TechNet article with detailed screenshots about how to disable IPv6 via Group Policy, which is one of the things he talks about: https://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/... It shows how there's an Explain box that describes what the various settings do.

That's 1 item[ * ]. I'd still like to see your definitive step-by-step instructions for turning off all telemetry and privacy-invasive connections in Windows 10 -- which is what the OP was attempting to do.

[ * ] How do you know that it even works? Plenty of times I've followed instructions from Microsoft's TechNet that didn't solve the problem it purported to solve.

And by the way, that's a helluva lot of steps to disable IPv6. Multiply that by a hundred other things you need to do, and probably a hundred you don't know about, and changes that get undone by updates, and you have a nightmare trying to create a privacy-respecting Windows 10.

Re: Windows 10 Enterprise ignores various privacy settings

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Post by posguy »

hobarrera wrote: post #89
labcomputer wrote: post #88

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Wouldn't call centers for online retailers need compliant desktops? How do they deal with customers who prefer to call an agent and read their card number over the phone?

I wouldn't assume these sort of desktops would even run windows at all. A large BestBuy-like place here in Argentina has their sales terminals boot over PXE into some form of *nix straight to the sales systems with no real internet. A bank nearby boots the account executive's systems right into KDE, on some pretty locked machines. Windows 10 in any of those scenarios would be a laugh, I can't even being to think why…

Its depressingly popular in the US for small & mid-size retailers and businesses. NCR, Loc, IT Retail, et all are built for Windows, and in the pharmacy arena you've got major companies like CVS using stuff from companies like Integra (not the telecom company, the pharmacy one) that thinks moving to SQL Server 2008 and C# with a full rewrite is the route to go for their major PCI compliant products.

It confounds me that locking yourself into a shrinking platform is what these players choose to do. Walmart doesn't use Windows in PCI related situations, nor do the big boys, all are on SLES running a POS atop that.

If your gonna do a rewrite, why lock yourself into one OS and into one database? Database connectors are a thing, and they aren't hard to use...

Re: Windows 10 Enterprise ignores various privacy settings

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Post by kalleboo »

danielcberman wrote: post #61

Has anyone done an analysis of MacOS and Chrome OS using similar methodologies? I would be curious as to the extent of the information being sent back to each of the "Mother Ships" in a side by side comparison, if that's even possible.

Little Snitch is a popular bit of software on the Mac, and pretty much everyone who uses thst goes through the first week of googling "so what's this weird background process do?"

Re: Windows 10 Enterprise ignores various privacy settings

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Post by Jaruzel »

sathackr wrote: post #97
slackingoff2017 wrote: post #95

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Some legit complaints for sure. Network manager pissed me off so much that I stopped using it. I recommend just shutting it off. All it seems to do is run the bash commands for you. Might as well just run them yourself. Same with burning ISO's, it's easier to just use command line tools. The most dead reliable USB ISO burner I've used is the DD command. I've used it to burn all sorts of crazy stuff that windows refus…

I haven't found the command-line-fu yet(and haven't spent much time looking) to scan, save, and auto-connect to various wifi networks, and to handle my Verizon LTE 4g card. I did hunt down the scan command once but I didn't use it enough to remember what it was. something to do with ilwifi iirc. Haven't tried DD as an ISO to CD burner...will give it a shot.

You can only DD a bootable ISO to USB if it's been created as a hybrid ISO image. The syslinux package includes an isohybrid[1] command to convert existing non-compliant ISOs to hybrid ISOs that can boot via USB.

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[1] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/mkusb/isohybrid

Re: Windows 10 Enterprise ignores various privacy settings

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Post by [deleted] »

cwyers wrote: post #127
mysterypie wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> pretty shoddy security researcher that doesn't read the documentation What an unnecessary insult. If you can read the incredibly confusing Microsoft documentation better than him (or any of us), then please post the definitive step-by-step instructions for turning off all telemetry and privacy-invasive connections in Windows 10. Then we'll see if your insult was warranted.

So, I search for "teredo group policy" and here's the second link I find, a TechNet article with detailed screenshots about how to disable IPv6 via Group Policy, which is one of the things he talks about: https://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/... It shows how there's an Explain box that describes what the various settings do.

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Re: Windows 10 Enterprise ignores various privacy settings

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Post by oridecon »

cwyers wrote: post #106
mjevans wrote: post #100

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It's a pretty broken configuration system that makes it needlessly difficult to do things the correct way.

It's a pretty shoddy security researcher that doesn't read the documentation before posting a lot of falsehoods to Twitter.

It all started with a pretty casual tweet, can we stop crucifying the guy?

No matter your opinion about the subject at least we are talking about it now and from what I can tell he's going to make a more reproducible test with a script so we can all tear it to pieces.

If not, I hope someone else do it. Even better if it's somebody with the proper credentials some of you all are requiring (from a freaking tweet).

Re: Windows 10 Enterprise ignores various privacy settings

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Post by dingo_bat »

Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #79
dingo_bat wrote: post #72

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> If your excuse is editing MS Office files, LibreOffice supports the formats and works For very small values of "works". I've found that even high school projects turn out to be a bit too much for libre office.

Well, my definition of "works" is that you can read it. Authoring new documents should use ODF. And again, MS Office works on Wine, so you can use that in the worst case.

I have used Linux (Mint) for all my work in college for ~6 months. In my experience, using Word online on Chromium was better than using libre Office locally. Both features and UI wise. Both for reading existing stuffs and for making new docs. I have nothing agains Libre Office but suggesting it can be used as a replacement for MS Office in any capacity is disingenious.

Regarding wine, no need for that now that Office online and Google docs exists.

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