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Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Post by mtgx »

VladimirGolovin wrote: post #13

Damn, now I need to move faster. My app must be ready by the time they close Wunderlist. I expected an eventual closure, but not that soon. I've spent the last two years developing a todo app that would be a good replacement for Wunderlist (and Astrid, if anyone still remembers that). The app will include with some major / critical features both those apps lacked: proper hierarchies / first-class subtasks, automatica…

First item on Microsoft's "To-Do" list:

- Shut down Wunderlist

Now let's hope they procrastinate just like everyone else.

Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Post by jongunter1 »

arikfr wrote: post #56

If anyone is looking for an alternative that will probably be around for a long time, check out Todoist [1]: they are bootstrapped and profitable and been around for 10 years. In terms of product - it's as simple to use as Wunderlist, but does have a few extra features. And they are cross platform like Wunderlist. (I'm not affiliated with them. Just a happy user.) [1] https://todoist.com

I've used Todoist, but I've found Remember The Milk a little more suited towards my own needs. I'v been using it for 8 years now (I think), so hopefully it should be around for a while.

Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Post by emodendroket »

rl3 wrote: post #61
VladimirGolovin wrote: post #13

Damn, now I need to move faster. My app must be ready by the time they close Wunderlist. I expected an eventual closure, but not that soon. I've spent the last two years developing a todo app that would be a good replacement for Wunderlist (and Astrid, if anyone still remembers that). The app will include with some major / critical features both those apps lacked: proper hierarchies / first-class subtasks, automatica…

> I went full waterfall on it, the spec is 266 pages long and took half a year just to write. Wow. It's nice to see extensive planning like that. I usually just throw anything that seems like an important idea into a text file on the assumption that it'll be fully hashed out during production at a later time. That method entails far less work, with the caveat of occasionally wondering if you're delusional from time t…

IMO your biggest competition is probably just whatever comes installed on the phone.

Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Post by devdebug »

I just activated my 1 year subscription I got with humblebundle. I really liked Wunderlist. I hope the new app is improved version of Wunderlist.

Importing all tasks in Todoist was quick but To-Do is trying to import for last hour and looks like it is going to fail.

Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Post by hysan »

I don't mind switching so long as they achieve feature parity. I love Wunderlist as it's the only todo app that has stuck for me. The one big thing that I've noticed missing is the lack of native desktop apps. For something like a todo app, I much prefer standalone apps over a web app. I hope they release one before shutting Wunderlist.

Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Post by frou_dh »

thirdsun wrote: post #95
arikfr wrote: post #56

If anyone is looking for an alternative that will probably be around for a long time, check out Todoist [1]: they are bootstrapped and profitable and been around for 10 years. In terms of product - it's as simple to use as Wunderlist, but does have a few extra features. And they are cross platform like Wunderlist. (I'm not affiliated with them. Just a happy user.) [1] https://todoist.com

Great and very complete alternative indeed. While I personally prefer Things, particularly now since version 3 is finally almost here, I was very tempted to migrate to Todoist on more than one occassion when Things / Cultured Code went rather silent in the past.

The "feel" of Things.app on the Mac is just wonderful. The difference in feel between a highly polished Cocoa app and all these others that incorporate varying degrees of web technology mishmash is night and day in my book.

Cultured-Code's development schedule is indeed certifiably GLACIAL though. On the Things 3 (re)(re?)announcement front, I'm really surprised that they aren't switching to subscription pricing.

Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Post by thrawn0r »

mcintyre1994 wrote: post #104
blahblah12 wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's pretty much a replica of the original app. It's being developed by the same team that made Wunderlist as in Chad Fowler and company (he has a larger portfolio now). Most of these comments are probably unnecessary. The original team still works at MSFT The app is simply a rebrand that's trying to add additional features over time. https://www.linkedin.com/in/fowlerchad/

I know it's the same team and I'm sure it'll reach parity/inherit their existing roadmap, but with Accompli they literally just rebranded it Outlook and released as is - complete with support for gmail etc. remaining. I'm just curious why they didn't do the same here, I'm sure there's a good reason and it'd be interesting to hear it.

Wunderlist had an own backend infrastructure where accompli just managed your mailbox based in gmail, exchange, yahoo etc via a standardized protocol (imap). This app uses the Exchange Online backend (hence you see Outlook tasks showing up in To-Do) so it is a re-write, not re-brand

Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Post by brunoqc »

darklajid wrote: post #60
dgrabla wrote: post #41

Taskwarrior on Desktop and Taskwarrior + Termux on Android is the most flexible, private, open and lightweight TODO manager I've ever used. No eye candy whatsoever, just pure power. I've been using the combo for a few years now, give it a look.

How do you sync between devices?

Also check https://github.com/coddingtonbear/inthe.am You can use their hosted version or host your own.

Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Post by Applejinx »

amix wrote: post #84
arikfr wrote: post #56

If anyone is looking for an alternative that will probably be around for a long time, check out Todoist [1]: they are bootstrapped and profitable and been around for 10 years. In terms of product - it's as simple to use as Wunderlist, but does have a few extra features. And they are cross platform like Wunderlist. (I'm not affiliated with them. Just a happy user.) [1] https://todoist.com

Thanks for the support arikfr! Being a long time HN user, I am happy to see Todoist recommended. We are in this for the long haul. We don't even go into acquisitions talks (we already turned down a lot of them), and we don't have an exit strategy. If you are interested in learning more please read our `No Exit philosophy` https://tentimezones.com/why-we-don-t-have-an-exit-strategy-...

I like this. I run the boutique audio plugin company Airwindows http://www.airwindows.com and last year I ran into a little problem: my payment processor, Kagi, went out of business owing me hundreds of dollars.

Your reasons for the No Exit strategy resonate with my thinking when I flipped Airwindows over to a Patreon strategy, decimating my income (I'd grossed close to a quarter million dollars by this point) just so I could release all future plugins as free AU, Mac and PC VSTs. At that point, the tactics became flooding the market with VST versions of software that had been AU-only up to that point, and coming up with promises (such as an open-sourcing program under the MIT license, and I've also debated using the GPL) to motivate people to join the Patreon.

If you starve and die, you can't do any work. If you're incredibly poor, you can only work on that which you can afford. (no modeling of Neve consoles here, not properly!) If you have incredible access to capital, sky's the limit, but it seems compulsory to screw over your users because capital demands to be returned tenfold, and this puts HUGE pressure on any dev or creator to turn full-on evil.

I don't know the answer and I'm not doing that awesomely, but that's not so different from how things were going before: that market is shriveling, in part because people simply can't pay money for things any more. There are major players which are, I think, staving off total collapse by setting up the most heinous DRM treadmills imaginable and trying to latch on to all the credit cards they can, all while trying to race to the bottom and starve everybody else.

I can't target capital as a goal anymore. I'll beg if I have to, I'll accept ugly and scary poverty, but I can't be part of the system geared to leave all the users with nothing. It's open source and tool-distribution for me. The whole concept of being rewarded with wealth for valuable work has become a charade when it gets crowded out by 'rewarded with lots more wealth by helping Microsoft screw everyone over'. The link's broken. And this is a rather big deal in a world where that link's axiomatic.

Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Post by intoverflow2 »

huhtenberg wrote: post #102
VladimirGolovin wrote: post #13

Damn, now I need to move faster. My app must be ready by the time they close Wunderlist. I expected an eventual closure, but not that soon. I've spent the last two years developing a todo app that would be a good replacement for Wunderlist (and Astrid, if anyone still remembers that). The app will include with some major / critical features both those apps lacked: proper hierarchies / first-class subtasks, automatica…

> I've spent the last two years developing a todo app Without seeing what you have, a general remark would be that everyone and his cousin has clocked at least some time developing at least one ToDo app. It's a right-of-passage thing for a lot of developers, just like a Weather app is the same for UX designer wannabies. BTW, what set Wunderlist apart is not the features first and foremost, but their bold in-your-face…

> what set Wunderlist apart

A nice wood texture (not even joking, was totally sold on the visuals in the early days)

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