I am so glad I've deleted my Facebook account a long time ago. A request to provide a photo ID for a social network platform just shocks me. Welcome to the Orwellian world, dear people...
Facebook activated my dormant account and won’t let me deactivate it
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Re: Facebook activated my dormant account and won’t let me deactivate it
#132Does anybody have conversion stats for the facebook signup process? What's the dropoff rate when it wants to scan your driver's license? Do they do this in every country? Do they do it on mobile? I'm more disturbed by 5 year data retention than the crappy verification step.
The request for ID is certainly not standard across all accounts and situations. My guess: the account reactivation came from a different location than OP's home country/state, or OP themselves moved states/countries in the past 5 years. The account being reactivated from a different location would certainly be cause for alarm. This would be a reasonable check in my book, as it is the best way to fight against compromised credentials - you know, the exact situation OP finds themselves in for having reused their Facebook password on other (previously compromised?) sites.
What the OP doesn't seem to understand is that the attacker may have been able to technically "reactivate" the account, but they also probably can't actually gain access until they provide ID. This ID requirement has likely saved the OP's account from actually falling into the attacker's eager hands.
OP is complaining about the privacy implications of a compromised reactivation by an attacker, and sour they are being asked to prove that they are not the attacker. Take off the tin foil hat, stop crying foul, be grateful Facebook seems to have saved your password-reusing ass, send them the ID, and then delete the account instead of deactivating it.
Re: Facebook activated my dormant account and won’t let me deactivate it
#133> I am concerned that they knew that I used this password on several different sites. How did they know that? I suppose they keep an automated list of passwords that have been hacked on other sites, when those hacked passwords are made public? If so, that much is reasonable. A clear demonstration of how users don't read error messages, as the screenshot that appears above this paragraph spells out the exact method th…
Also possible that the user read & understood the message but didn't take it as proof of its claim. FB has a history of collecting cross-site passwords from failed logins.
I would like to know more about this. Do you have a source? I have suspected this for years.
Re: Facebook activated my dormant account and won’t let me deactivate it
#134Does anybody have conversion stats for the facebook signup process? What's the dropoff rate when it wants to scan your driver's license? Do they do this in every country? Do they do it on mobile? I'm more disturbed by 5 year data retention than the crappy verification step.
The request for ID is certainly not standard across all accounts and situations. My guess: the account reactivation came from a different location than OP's home country/state, or OP themselves moved states/countries in the past 5 years. The account being reactivated from a different location would certainly be cause for alarm. This would be a reasonable check in my book, as it is the best way to fight against compro…
email verification would have also stopped reactivation in this case.
Re: Facebook activated my dormant account and won’t let me deactivate it
#135Earlier quoted context omitted.
Also possible that the user read & understood the message but didn't take it as proof of its claim. FB has a history of collecting cross-site passwords from failed logins.
I would like to know more about this. Do you have a source? I have suspected this for years.
Re: Facebook activated my dormant account and won’t let me deactivate it
#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
Requiring the same standard of verification for activating an account. Of course, they want to make it easy so it's unlikely to happen...
If he knew his password he could deactivate the account using the same standard of verification as was used for reactivating it.
He does know it, but Facebook is requiring that he change it before deleting his account.
Re: Facebook activated my dormant account and won’t let me deactivate it
#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
I would suspect a similar circumstance for the author's situation. Facebook does do some weird things to try to resume user engagement, but I've not really seen them re-active accounts on their own. More than likely it was password reuse resulting in a breach. The Author even considered that the password was checked by some automation against sites like haveibeenpwned, which makes sense to me to some degree for Faceb…
The author clearly has access to the email account associated with the account. I don't see why they demand identification when they can just send a verification email, like literally every other website. What facebook is doing would make sense for a bank. They're not a bank. I know they think they are super duper important, but they're just another website that has no business demanding anyone's ID. Can you imagine…
> The author clearly has access to the email account associated with the account. I don't see why they demand identification when they can just send a verification email, like literally every other website.
Having lost a domain with email tied to it before (renewal came up during a long, low-tech vacation) I'm glad they're a little more careful than that.
Re: Facebook activated my dormant account and won’t let me deactivate it
#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
Frustrate returning customers ... not a great idea
You're not the customer, you're the product.
I don't understand why this was down-voted, it's a very insightful quote and not the first time I've seen it.
People severely overestimate their own free-will and downplay the role of luck and external forces in their lives. If free-will was absolute and unlimited, then Facebook wouldn't be able to make any money from advertising. If you look at Facebook's income statement, you can actually quantify how much free-will Facebook took away from humanity.
Facebook's mission is basically to take free-will out of people and turn it into dollars for corporations.
Re: Facebook activated my dormant account and won’t let me deactivate it
#139The author claims the request for ID is an "invasion of privacy"? Such a claim is absurd. A request for something is not an invasion of privacy and never is. He can simply decline to provide the information - which is the path he took. The ability to take such an action makes it a decision. He just doesn't like that his account is not in his control. I get that. The situation sucks. But guess what - too bad. He never…
>He never owned his account in the first place. That information belongs to Facebook and is the property of Facebook.
Don't you think that was part of the point and part of the problem?
Re: Facebook activated my dormant account and won’t let me deactivate it
#1401) your acount shouldn't have been reactivated
2) but If you could get an account deaactivated without proving who you are, then that could cause a lot of issues.