131–140 of 232 posts
I also don't have a problem with this guys vineyard failing. That's capitalism, sometimes (a lot of times) businesses fail.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is hard to determine which is needed more, as a home has costs, loosing a job leads usually loosing a home. I believe both are equally important, and this is kind of a snake biting its own tail problem, as without a home it is very hard to get a job. (Although I can imagine someone living in a car temporarily in mild weather conditions, it would be impossible to survive a winter that way here in Central Europe) Ho…
> loosing It's spelled "loosening", btw.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Has anyone here even worked a minimum wage job?? A few dollars an hour above the baseline isn't enough to compensate for the long term health and career advancement penalties you'll be taking. These are terminal career positions; they don't get better. Hauling apples and hay isn't going to get you a spot at a tractor design firm. Pay people enough to make a decent, comfortable life and you'll have workers. The CoL/wa…
> Hauling apples and hay isn't going to get you a spot at a tractor design firm. Of course not. This is a change in required qualifications and education, not just a move up the ladder. I don't know about agriculture jobs, but in food service your career prospects were to go from flipping burgers to managing/supervising/leading others who are flipping burgers (at increasing scale - store, regional, national, etc). Wh…
The fact that you can't generate enough economic surplus to fund studies to acquire the additional mechanical engineering study in a manner competitive with other mechanical engineering students is why you view the path as untenable. Hence why these positions are desperation tier end-of-the-line jobs and why the CoL/Wage arbitrage is required to keep them staffed.
Similarly, people engaged in agricultural studies generally don't come out of the 'harvest labour' workforce.
Working on a farm is a transaction with a specific expected ROI. If the ROI sucks in comparison to other mutually exclusive exchanges, why would you do it?
Status, status, status. Another way to think of it might be: How much would I have to pay you for you to walk around with a small amount of shit on your forehead all day? We have somehow gotten ourselves in the position where manual labor relegates one to be a social untouchable. This means that anyone with a shred of self-interest gets out ASAP, which means the political power of labor is disproportionately weak in…
To be fair, this is an incredibly common view historically. It would be extremely unusual for a society not to believe that manual laborers were a lower class than non-manual-laborers.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is hard to determine which is needed more, as a home has costs, loosing a job leads usually loosing a home. I believe both are equally important, and this is kind of a snake biting its own tail problem, as without a home it is very hard to get a job. (Although I can imagine someone living in a car temporarily in mild weather conditions, it would be impossible to survive a winter that way here in Central Europe) Ho…
> loosing It's spelled "loosening", btw.
Yeah no shit no one wants the job. The industry needs to adapt. You can't keep paying people more to solve the problem, it doesn't work. No one aspires to earn 30k a year anyway. Ultimately the jobs need to be replaced by machines or the cost of labor needs to get passed on to the consumer. It might be the end of two buck chuck.
"You can't keep paying people more to solve the problem, it doesn't work. No one aspires to earn 30k a year anyway" No! The average income for the USA in 2008 was $28K! That's the average - meaning that for every person earning $75K (not that much) there are a dozen people earning $20K. 90% of people don't work as an 'aspiration'. The don't have 'careers' they have 'jobs'. And 90% of jobs in this world are not very e…
> That's the average - meaning that for every person earning $75K (not that much) there are a dozen people earning $20K.
For all your emphasis, this is a pretty dramatic misunderstanding of how averages work. You'd need a histogram to make the claim you're making.
The population earning $75K can equal the population earning $20K, or have basically any other relation to it, without affecting the average income.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's not true at all. Medicine requires many years of your life in training, and going hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt. Also, it is extremely competitive and I'd probably fail out of it. High risk for no guaranteed payout. Finance also doesn't actually pay that much. I had friends working at banks right out of college making Being a lawyer at a not top tier institute also sucks in terms of pay/requires deb…
> Tech really is quite high paying and good for people at all levels. I know people who did bootcamps and are now making 100K with a couple months of training. It depends on where you live. I'm in Texas; you will never see that kind of salary where I am. I know a guy who had something like 15 years of experience, and he didn't break 100k until he moved to NYC. When I graduated college in 2007, some of my friends got…
The same could be said about the finance salaries. My point is that in these high cost of living areas, when comparing apples to apples in terms of tech vs anything else, tech wins.
Finance is shit, being an entry level lawyer from a tier 2 school is shit, consulting is shit, and the only thing thats not is tech.
In other areas of the country tech pays much less, but so does everything else! So tech still wins.
Well then obviously wages haven't risen enough. For an extreme example, pay me 200$ an hour and I'll quit my web dev job and do it myself.
Although it's obviously not going to happen, even if it did you couldn't afford buying that same product as a direct result of the increase in cost.
The staggering low wages on Californian farms is preventing proper incentivisation to automate these processes. It reminds me of how slaves in the antibellum south prevented the area from becoming industrialized.
The story is not too different for dairy (and other) farms in Upstate New York. Most agricultural jobs pay a few more dollars an hour than the minimum wage, but they are much harder jobs than minimum wage jobs. It is one thing to wake up early morning to milk the cows if you own the farm, it is another thing to do it for other people's cows. I don't know about Alaska and Hawaii, but illegal aliens are a big part of t…
Milking is becoming automated.[1] Milking robots are production, not experimental technology, with at least four manufacturers. This video is amusing, showing the cow's view of meeting robotic milking for the first time. Milk cows want to be milked, to relieve the pressure. So, given the freedom to use the robotic milkers any time they want, they get milked about three times a day. Milk production increases a bit. Th…