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Re: Hydrogen – An advanced drum machine for Linux

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Post by eon1 » Tue, Mar 07, 2017, 10:17 PM UTC

sean_appleby wrote: post #84

diminish wrote: post #66

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Cost is low but 3rd party ecosystem including plugins is weak. It s like notepad++ of programming editors or winamp of music players. Effective, cheap, non innovative Yet OK.

I've only used Ableton, FL and Reason, so there could be something I'm missing, but doesn't Reaper support vsts? How could the ecosystem for plugins possibly be weak?

VST/3/AU/DX, and it supports scripting your own in JS as well. Unless they're upset about not having LADSPA or Nyquist, I can't imagine what else they'd be referring to that isn't proprietary AVID garbage.

Re: Hydrogen – An advanced drum machine for Linux

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Post by shermanyo » Thu, Mar 09, 2017, 4:18 AM UTC

sowbug wrote: post #59

zevv wrote: post #21

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For me a huge change the past years was the coming of Bitwig Studio audio workstation to Linux. Commercial software, but rock solid and high quality.

Slightly off-topic, but does Bitwig have a restrictive licensing scheme that makes reinstallation cumbersome? I love FL Studio because it doesn't have a limit on number of installations. As a geek, I change my main machine often, and it's so convenient to install FL Studio if I get an itch to bang something out, and not to worry about how many activations I've used up. Ableton is a turn-off for this reason. They're a…

There are restrictions, but they're quite flexible. I have a main PC and a couple laptops I switch between, and have no issues.

You can activate 2 systems permanently, which is managed simply from the web UI. (revoke activations) Other systems can be activated temporarily with your email/id + pass on startup.

FWIW, the small team has been fantastic and responsive since the beginning. (I've been on the betas and helped develop some of the early controller scripts. check the community pages to see what we've done)

I got a NFR license for helping out early on, and ran into the activation limit initially. (testing on all platforms, etc...) I emailed them a few times to deactivate my current systems initially, then they added the option to their account management page.

If its a deal breaker, I suggest emailing them and seeing what they say. It wouldn't surprise me if they upped the limit or did something to help you out. They're an awesome group who really want to work with the community and users.

Not affiliated besides what I mentioned above, just a happy user. Best of luck, if you have any questions PM me or reply here if you think relevant to others :)

Re: Hydrogen – An advanced drum machine for Linux

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Post by shermanyo » Thu, Mar 09, 2017, 4:28 AM UTC

Pxtl wrote: post #50

donquichotte wrote: post #10

I have tried Hydrogen some time ago when I tried to build a linux audio workstation with Jack and Ardour. As much as it pains me to say this, don't expect it to be even remotely as good as commercial software drum machines like EZDrummer, Superior Drummer or Studio Drummer in terms of sample quality or usability. Generally, I found it prohibitively complicated to set up a well-working low-latency audio workstation, e…

After hearing some oldschool electronica my 9-year old asked me about drum machines. Is there a good kid-friendly one you can recommend for win or android?

Adding to the suggestions here, there's another benefit to playing with hardware.

If they start plugging in basic effects pedals, they'll learn about signal flow and signal chains that are relevant to all styles.

There's no fundamental difference between a microphone, a guitar or a drum machine plugging in to a delay pedal. Learning the basics of EQ (bass, mid, low) gets them on the path to studio mastering if they're interested in that side later. If they decide they don't like the creative side, they have the basics to learn live sound tech or sound engineering.

Good luck and have fun :)

Re: Hydrogen – An advanced drum machine for Linux

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Post by sowbug » Thu, Mar 09, 2017, 9:12 PM UTC

shermanyo wrote: post #132

sowbug wrote: post #59

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Slightly off-topic, but does Bitwig have a restrictive licensing scheme that makes reinstallation cumbersome? I love FL Studio because it doesn't have a limit on number of installations. As a geek, I change my main machine often, and it's so convenient to install FL Studio if I get an itch to bang something out, and not to worry about how many activations I've used up. Ableton is a turn-off for this reason. They're a…

There are restrictions, but they're quite flexible. I have a main PC and a couple laptops I switch between, and have no issues. You can activate 2 systems permanently, which is managed simply from the web UI. (revoke activations) Other systems can be activated temporarily with your email/id + pass on startup. FWIW, the small team has been fantastic and responsive since the beginning. (I've been on the betas and helpe…

Thanks for the comprehensive reply. The self-service activation manager sounds like a step up from Ableton. Still not as great as FL Studio's free-wheelin' attitude, but better.