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We Tried Slack and We Deeply Regretted It (2015)

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Re: We Tried Slack and We Deeply Regretted It (2015)

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Hahahaha! I upvoted you because that's funny. But word to the wise; this kind of comment, even if you're joking, can get flagged and backfire badly on HN. If you're serious, I'd like to invite you to share your reasoning for your insult. I gave a direct answer to a direct question from @Nomentatus, and had no intention of saying something inflammatory.

You're correct, I did use sarcasm; I probably did come close near the edge. Certainly had I been appalled in a poor cause my comment would have been flaggable. So I'll bear your reservation in mind, although I do find wit too tempting to keep it to myself, usually. My family is in part Prussian, and this is an example, now that I look at it, of fabled Prussian sarcasm, which I became familiar with (at the sharp end)…

Oh, hey, your comment was fine! Don't worry, you didn't do anything wrong. :)

My comment immediately above wasn't directed at you at all. I replied to @cammio who said only "troll" in response to me. His commment did get flagged and was later killed. I suspect when that happens, some people can't see the dead comment, depending on their profile settings. My comment was getting upvoted until the one I replied to got killed, and then it started getting downvoted, so I was suspecting other people also couldn't tell what I had replied to and mistook it for you. I should have quoted what I was replying to. C'est la vie.

Re: We Tried Slack and We Deeply Regretted It (2015)

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There's a reason it's called "diligence", because it typically involves trying . Personally, I don't count reading a company's ad copy on their own web page as being even remotely diligent or doing much research. Normally 'due diligence' involves talking to the party you intend to engage with, as well as talking to others who have experience with that party. The author didn't mention any of that. Other users here als…

Trying a huge number of users? How without migrating? He could have asked innumerable questions all of which contradicted the description of what he was getting. He couldn't have known which was the right question. I very rarely query in person before a purchase; I did recently and was given a flatly wrong answer on one question, and then a very positive answer that wasn't logically coherent (strongly suggesting a no…

> I very rarely query in person before a purchase

Yeah me too, for things I buy for myself. But it's absolutely the norm for software purchases of $500k. That's what everyone does, it's extremely common practice for any org purchase of software for over 100 people.

If the author were actually looking to spend $500k, he definitely would have called first and done a bunch of research. Nobody spends that much without talking to someone. The only reason he didn't have that dialogue is because he thought he'd get the whole thing -- apparently a $500k value -- for free.

That's what I mean about the price tag being a signal. It should have signaled a phone call, at the very least.

Re: We Tried Slack and We Deeply Regretted It (2015)

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Speaking of Slack, what's an alternative with a different pricing model? We have a core team that's always around, and for that Slack pricing is fine, but we have a significant number of "drive by" users that aren't worth paying $60 per year. We're generally happy with Slack's features, so which are the similar services that charge something different than per-user?

Mattermost is a complete replacement for Slack. I really don't understand why people use Slack if they don't use the integrations, which in my opinion are quite unnecessary in many cases.
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