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GoPro shows its vulnerability after horrific Q3 earnings

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Re: GoPro shows its vulnerability after horrific Q3 earnings

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Post by sorenjan »

xor1 wrote: post #59

Can anyone recommend a good GoPro model (or similar product) to pick up for use on a helmet? Specifically while cycling. I once had a Contour, but lost it, and never replaced it.

I haven't used on myself, but the Garmin Virb cameras [0] seems to be popular with cyclists. I'm guessing partly because Garmin was already a popular brand because of their bicycle computers, and partly because the cameras have built in GPS and what Garmin calls "G-Metrix" which enables some fancy statistics on your video [1].

[0] https://virb.garmin.com/en-US

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI0ltAj3hzM

Re: GoPro shows its vulnerability after horrific Q3 earnings

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Post by vacri »

odbol_ wrote: post #39
giarc wrote: post #14

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I think GoPro suffers from two problems. 1. Many people buy these camera's that never use them, or use them a few times but realize editing videos takes longer than they hoped it would. So after a while of non use, they sell the camera. 2. They built a good product, one that lasts and is therefore good for the used market. People are comfortable buying a used GoPro because they know it's rugged and well built. So GoP…

If only they made crappier products that break more often, at least then their stock shareholders would think it's a good company. This exemplifies everything that's wrong with capitalism and planned obsolescence.

GoPro's market segment requires toughness and reliability. It's the central plank in their offering. They'd never have built their name if they made shoddy stuff.

Re: GoPro shows its vulnerability after horrific Q3 earnings

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Post by bronson »

Fr0styMatt88 wrote: post #94

So, I'm starting a VR project that's going to need 180-degree (or thereabouts) stereoscopic video. Ready to spend money on cameras and actually get started. "Cool! This should be straightforward, everyone uses GoPro cameras for that, so a I'll need to buy two GoPros!" was my immediate thought. All ready to give GoPro my money. Oh, but they dropped stereo genlock after the 3+..... wait what?!?! VR filmmaking is one of…

You think selecting one is confusing? Wait until you try to use it!

Re: GoPro shows its vulnerability after horrific Q3 earnings

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Post by vatotemking »

noarchy wrote: post #52
mtw wrote: post #31

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I haven't read your account. What's bad about GoPro? Note : I have an action camera, but it's from Garmin

>Note : I have an action camera, but it's from Garmin Fwiw, I own a GoPro, but use Garmin's video editing software. Not only do I find it easier to whip up quick edits, but I can also overlay my Garmin Edge cycling data.

Nice. I remember GoPro Studio crashing everytime. its frustrating. Good luck if you havent saved your project.

Re: GoPro shows its vulnerability after horrific Q3 earnings

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Post by vacri »

pja wrote: post #15

Tom Scott was very positive about the new GoPro Hero5 fwiw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTx9lYpfWSg

Tom Scott's "Things You Might Not Know" series is extraordinary. In a sea of internet tidbits and factbites that you've seen umpteen times before, his videos are almost always new things I've never heard about before; certainly less than 10% would be my guesstimate of things I knew of beforehand. Definitely worth checking out.

Re: GoPro shows its vulnerability after horrific Q3 earnings

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Post by ge96 »

Fr0styMatt88 wrote: post #94

So, I'm starting a VR project that's going to need 180-degree (or thereabouts) stereoscopic video. Ready to spend money on cameras and actually get started. "Cool! This should be straightforward, everyone uses GoPro cameras for that, so a I'll need to buy two GoPros!" was my immediate thought. All ready to give GoPro my money. Oh, but they dropped stereo genlock after the 3+..... wait what?!?! VR filmmaking is one of…

Not 180, but you could buy that $15,000.00 go pro camera set for 360 video haha

Although I think truly immersive 360 video would require not only stereoscopic eg. Dual cameras per fov, but also that new camera technology that captures at multiple depths of field. Litho or something don't know what it's called. Then you can focus on different focal points of the video like up close or super faraway

Re: GoPro shows its vulnerability after horrific Q3 earnings

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Post by notyourwork »

mikestew wrote: post #58
mtw wrote: post #31

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I haven't read your account. What's bad about GoPro? Note : I have an action camera, but it's from Garmin

My main complaint is that it's difficult to determine camera state. My main use case is having it mounted to a motorcycle where I can reach the buttons but can't safely or easily see the indicator LEDs. Is it on? Is it recording? I have some awesome videos of me sitting on a curb in front of a gas station drinking a Gatorade because I thought it was recording the whole time, and it turns out that when I pulled up and…

The user experience with their accessories is horrible. I feel your pains and have no interest in buying another GoPro product.

Re: GoPro shows its vulnerability after horrific Q3 earnings

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Post by BinaryIdiot »

I interviewed there a few months back and I gotta say I'm not surprised. Granted all of the people I met were really smart and seemed to know what they were doing but at the same time the product direction was...confusing to say the least. They also want to get more services and software going to monetize but it wasn't clear how they were going to monetize any of it just that their software needs to improve and be usable by other cameras not just there's.

It sounded like a cool place to work but I was a bit worried about their next 2-3 years.

Re: GoPro shows its vulnerability after horrific Q3 earnings

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Post by Fricken »

odbol_ wrote: post #130
Fricken wrote: post #112

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I was thinking about the Snapchat glasses, which I initially regarded as stupid. But when I considered the intimidation factor associated with video editing, it dawned on me that Snapchat's 10 second time constraint effectively forces users to shoot video that is super easy for the masses to edit, arrange, share and aggregate, and within a universally defined set of constraints. So I think snapchat glasses could be h…

Even though the best Viners out there make amazing films with Tarentino-level editing in only 6 seconds. Editing is an art - sure you can automate it, but until we have strong AI it's not going to be a substitute for a talented editor.

I agree. And the snapchat glasses bring the fundamentals of editing down to the level of fingerpainting, which effectively democratizes it. No matter how skilled an editor you are, if you're publishing to Snap, you're on the same playing field as any 14 year old doing the same thing.
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