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Re: Apple, this time you made a mistake

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Post by dingaling »

lpgauth wrote: post #99
SysArchitect wrote: post #39

As a professional software dev/system architect using MacBook Pro's, I am excited about the new MacBook Pro. I'll miss the SD card for my amateur photography, but I'll live. It's still got the 3.5mm for my headphones, with USB-C hopefully daisy chaining non Apple displays will finally become a reality, and thankfully my work has upgraded to using wireless technology for displaying screens in conference rooms (which w…

I was also scared about the removal of MagSafe when I first got my Macbook 12", but in reality what happens when you trip on your power cable is that it will come out from the plug in the wall since the cable is not attached to the transformer.

Detaching easily from the wall socket is a peculiarly US phenomenon. In the UK for example it takes considerable force exactly perpendicular to the socket to remove a plug, and all retail cables are moulded to the plug. So one end is anchored to the wall ans the other is connected to a €3500 laptop...

It would have made more sense to move the Magsafe connector onto the PSU DC output.

Re: Apple, this time you made a mistake

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Post by masklinn »

MBCook wrote: post #60
techtivist wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Surface Studio perhaps? ;)

It will be interesting to see if Apple decides to try to respond to that thing. It's pretty impressive in quite a few ways.

> It will be interesting to see if Apple decides to try to respond to that thing.

Probably not, they really seem dead-set against touch interfaces of macOS, and have made pretty much no improvement to it towards that end.

Re: Apple, this time you made a mistake

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Post by masklinn »

randomsofr wrote: post #95
SysArchitect wrote: post #39

As a professional software dev/system architect using MacBook Pro's, I am excited about the new MacBook Pro. I'll miss the SD card for my amateur photography, but I'll live. It's still got the 3.5mm for my headphones, with USB-C hopefully daisy chaining non Apple displays will finally become a reality, and thankfully my work has upgraded to using wireless technology for displaying screens in conference rooms (which w…

> I have been using Caps lock for escape for years I didn't knew people were doing that :O, whats the benefit?, and how do you turn on caps?

> I didn't knew people were doing that :O

I rebind mine to control.

> whats the benefit?

Control is an actually useful key, in Emacs specifically but also in OSX in general as all OSX controls have emacs-ish chords support (e.g. C-a C-e for start and end of line). Having Control on a large well-placed key is more convenient than have it on a small key in the corner, and I've literally no use for capslock.

> how do you turn on caps?

I don't think I've ever wanted that in the last 20 years or so, every single toggling of capslock has been by mistake. In fact one of my issues with windows is there still isn't a way to easily remap capslock, it takes 3 clicks in OSX (or ChromeOS), it takes installing third-party software or hand-rolling custom keyboard layouts on windows.

Re: Apple, this time you made a mistake

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Post by midnightmonster »

larrik wrote: post #110
midnightmonster wrote: post #82

If you say (in effect) "The latest macbooks would mess with details of my high-end pro workflow...so I'm thinking of switching to Linux" you either live in the terminal or you're not really thinking this through.

That's a pretty outdated viewpoint. Linux has been my professional platform for 6 years, and I find it to be vastly superior to Windows or Mac. The short time I had to use OS X for iOS development was very painful.

I'm not saying Linux is bad. I'm saying switching from Mac to Linux is going to be a much bigger adjustment to your workflow than getting a new dongle or a few different shortcut keys (considering that at a minimum you're going to be switching cmd to ctrl for nearly everything--unless you already live in the terminal).

Re: Apple, this time you made a mistake

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Post by tmikaeld »

sakopov wrote: post #32
0x0 wrote: post #2

A maxxed out MBP costs €5000, which is $5447.95. And you can't connect your iphone, your iphone headset, hdmi, magsafe, sd-card or usb. And you don't get tactile escape keys or function keys. Or Nvidia. Or even an OpenGL implementation from this decade! This show is over :(

Not an Apple fan by any means but I've just gotten tired of the poor build quality of Windows laptops and terrible battery life year after year. So I've been patiently waiting to upgrade my 3-years-old XPS to a MBP. Heard that the price range will likely be fairly close to the old generation of MBP. Well, what i saw today is just too cost-prohibitive for very little reason. I'm now hoping that Surface Book or the new…

I'm in the same boat. I've been lifting any virtual rock for any decent affordable development laptop that isn't two generations old with a bad CPU (Read Celeron or Atom). But there aren't any, there's only the 600€ range and up.

Then comes Apple, which I've been waiting for - I have the Macbook Air and Macbook Pro. But for this price and with no 32GB RAM upgrade possibilities and 8GB RAM for 220€?

No... Just NO. This is the last straw, I'm going to try Linux for the iftiest time.

Re: Apple, this time you made a mistake

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Post by extra88 »

Bud wrote: post #75
tekklloneer wrote: post #7

While I appreciate USB-C, it's still too early to go USB-C only, especially on a "professional" laptop. And, the transition to lightning headphones is a glaring example of the left hand SOMEHOW not being aware of what the right hand is doing. Plus, the touch bar sucks. Compensating with indentations and force touch could have made it an amazing and useful tool.

a) you haven't used the Touch Bar. Seems a tad early to conclude that it sucks. b) what transition to Lightning headphones? The MacBook Pro keeps the old headphone jack. Do your homework before reflexively criticizing, please.

You can't use the headphones that came with an iPhone 7 to listen to anything other than another iOS device, including this new MBP.

The mistake people are making is thinking the iPhone's transition is from 3.5mm analog audio to Lightning digital audio. It isn't, it's a transition to wireless audio, including the Lightning headphones is a compromise.

Re: Apple, this time you made a mistake

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Post by greyfade »

dogma1138 wrote: post #118
Akkuma wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Macbooks run Windows, but the driver support is pretty horrendous from Apple. Basically, they say it runs and stop supporting it after that. I cannot get a graphics driver update at all. Another good example is that TRRS does not work at all for Windows and this is 100% a driver issue.

I have no problems installing the Radeon drivers on my mid 2015 MBP and not using the default Apple ones.

Graphics drivers are by no means the only drivers that require updates.

Re: Apple, this time you made a mistake

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Post by SysArchitect »

0x0 wrote: post #84
SysArchitect wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except that it increases utility. I can now bring a single charger that can charge my MacBook Pro and my iPhone. I just need a USB-C to USB-C cable and a USB-C to Lightning cable. Charge my laptop or charge my iPhone or charge both (use the laptop as a passthrough). It will reduce the amount of stuff I carry, I tend to carry just an iPhone charger while traveling in case I want to bring it with me where I don't bring…

Can you plug this particular cable into a wall adapter iOS charger? If not, then you still need two different cables depending on whether you want to charge from the wall or the mac.

You can't plug it into the wall adapter iOS charger, but you can plug it into a USB-C charger that comes with the MBP.

Re: Apple, this time you made a mistake

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Post by bbcbasic »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #93
AndrewStephens wrote: post #65

What a whiney, content-free blog post. The author complains about removing the function keys, MagSafe, HDMI, SD Card and the escape key but doesn't give any examples of how they used those in the past or how those features' absence will cripple their workflow. Here are my thoughts: Removing the function keys and replacing them with the touch bar is a step up. The function keys have been annoyingly inconsistent on mac…

> The addition of the fingerprint scanner alone is a win Interesting. Every other laptop has one these days, but I haven't really seen people using it much. It seems more like a gimmick. Fingerprint scanner on a phone makes more sense, because it lets you to unlock it almost as quickly as if you didn't have any lockscreen security, which is a big convenience.

The phone finger print scanner is sweet. Can't live without it now. Can single handedly unlock the phone and browse HN. :-)

Re: Apple, this time you made a mistake

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Post by SysArchitect »

randomsofr wrote: post #95
SysArchitect wrote: post #39

As a professional software dev/system architect using MacBook Pro's, I am excited about the new MacBook Pro. I'll miss the SD card for my amateur photography, but I'll live. It's still got the 3.5mm for my headphones, with USB-C hopefully daisy chaining non Apple displays will finally become a reality, and thankfully my work has upgraded to using wireless technology for displaying screens in conference rooms (which w…

> I have been using Caps lock for escape for years I didn't knew people were doing that :O, whats the benefit?, and how do you turn on caps?

I have the shift key for when I want to type caps. I don't think I have EVER used caps lock to type in all caps.
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