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The iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus Review: Iterating on a Flagship

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Re: The iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus Review: Iterating on a Flagship

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Post by hyperbovine »

izacus wrote: post #83
hyperbovine wrote: post #71

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Of course it provides a better value, the upshot of this review is that if you sell your smartphone for the exact same price as an iPhone, you automatically lose. I had expected the headline with the Pixel phones to be something like "near iPhone performance for half the price". I can't possibly see how these new google phones are going to be a success at this price.

Same way as Samsung Galaxy Notes and S series could be a huge success at the same price I guess? Pixel pretty much offers very similar hardware without having to buy into the Apple ecosystem. There's value in that.

Pixel and Galaxy are comparable to the 6. iPhone is constantly one generation ahead of its competitors. And let's not forget that Samsung, evidently, had to cut a few corners to pack enough juice into their phone to make it an alternative to the iPhone.

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Post by ericd »

tluyben2 wrote: post #102
ericd wrote: post #90

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The missing piece in other laptops, as always, is not raw specs, but build quality, and things like a great trackpad. No one else seems to be able to nail trackpads. I really wish I could buy a different brand of laptop, but I've been spoiled by the MBP's trackpad.

I had the same feeling for years until they started making battery and memory and harddisk changes impossible. I got the chance to buy 10 second hand x220s with a bunch of unused 6 and 9 cell batteries. They give me the same feeling as you have about the quality, I run 15+ hours on them with the 9 cell, they are very cheap (I paid $80 per piece), they have excellent keyboards, they perform well for all I need them fo…

Yeah, used to have Thinkpads, and used the track point exclusively. I find it a bit slower to use, but that might just be my lack of skill with them. If someone brought back the trackball, though... :-)

Re: The iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus Review: Iterating on a Flagship

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Post by retromario »

mirsadm wrote: post #89
davidf18 wrote: post #64

Hardware feature table mentions WiFi, but not the LTE modem and radio which is far more important as LTE has to deal with skyscrapers and buildings with stone and steel which conveniently block LTE signals, population density, and spectrum consumption has been dramatically increasing year to year. The unit has the Qualcomm X12 modem but that modem doesn't cover AWS-3 (Band 66) which is a very large swath of spectrum,…

In addition, touch screen latency is something that never gets tested but is a huge factor in how the device feels to use. Some phones have terrible latency and its impossible to find out until you own the device.

Absolutely, it's actually incredible how little real-world information there is on latency. The last useful articles I can find are from 2-3 years ago!

Where is Microsoft's 1ms latency touch screen from 2012? https://www.engadget.com/2012/03/10/microsoft-cuts-touchscre...

Re: The iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus Review: Iterating on a Flagship

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Post by PTRFRLL »

>It’s hard to actually think about the user experience of the headphone jack and to design wireless earbuds that don't have all of the friction points that we've come to expect.

What are the 'friction points' of traditional 3.5mm headphones? The fact that they're wired?

Re: The iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus Review: Iterating on a Flagship

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Post by schwarze_pest »

matwood wrote: post #67
Shivetya wrote: post #46

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that is a large amount of FUD and baseless too. the majority of the world gets by not having eight hundred dollar phones just fine. Apple marketing simply has succeeded in convincing you and others that there is no viable alternative which in turn keeps you from accepting such a possibility

> Apple marketing simply has succeeded in convincing you and others that there is no viable alternative which in turn keeps you from accepting such a possibility Speaking of FUD. Marketing only gets you so far, and at some point you have to have a product. I have tried to switch to Android. First with an HTC One and another time with the Nexus 5 (I also have a Nexus 7). Android definitely wins on open and customizati…

> I think Google is finally recognizing this, and attempting to replicate it with the Pixel.

They are still not there with Pixel. As long as they don't have their own SoC, there won't be proper long time support for their phones.

Re: The iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus Review: Iterating on a Flagship

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Post by eridius »

mark-r wrote: post #135

There's a lot of moaning about the resolution of 326ppi, but does anybody find that to be an actual limitation in practice? Just because other devices get a higher figure doesn't mean you get any practical value from those higher figures.

I came here to ask the same question. What's the point of a higher resolution? 326ppi is already good enough that I don't see individual pixels, so it's hard to imagine why I would want something denser. And speaking as a developer, I'm really glad Apple has stuck with their 2x and 3x scales. I really don't want to have to add 4x versions of all my images too.

Re: The iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus Review: Iterating on a Flagship

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Post by eridius »

glogla wrote: post #100
wtallis wrote: post #62

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None of Apple's platforms became a walled garden. iOS is more open than it was at first release when there was no SDK and the only sanctioned development method was web apps. OS X/macOS has acquired an optional walled garden app store but has otherwise only become more restricted for security reasons, and those restrictions can be disabled by the user. None of the predictions of doom have come to pass. Users have com…

Wait, doesn't the newest version of OS X remove the option to install applications that aren't from App Store or Certified developers? You can still enable the option through console, but the UI option is gone.

I didn't realize it, but you're right, they removed the UI option. And that's probably a good idea, because anybody who isn't capable of turning that on with the Terminal probably shouldn't. It's a good bit of security. And you don't even need to change that option to run non-signed apps anyway, since you can always right-click the app and select Open and it will allow you (after a warning) to launch it anyway even though it is unsigned (and IIRC it only warns you for quarantined apps, so once you've launched it this way you can launch it normally afterwards).

Re: The iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus Review: Iterating on a Flagship

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Post by eridius »

dpark wrote: post #85
samstave wrote: post #79

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can you expand, i am out of the loop

He took a job at Apple and didn't actually quit at The Verge. Just stopped communicating with them but kept collecting a check. http://www.theverge.com/2016/9/23/13036012/a-note-from-the-e... Apparently there was about a month where he actively worked for both, too.

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2016/09/23/ziegler-verge-ap... suggests that he may not even be at Apple anymore.

Re: The iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus Review: Iterating on a Flagship

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Post by eridius »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #107
gempir wrote: post #103

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Are you really that often in that situation though? I see that happen maybe like once a month or so. Sure a bit inconvenient but not a deal breaker

> Are you really that often in that situation though? Yeah, my phone is a business tool, and I'm on the phone frequently. Its useless if I can't be on it on wired headphones while it recharges from long phone calls.

You can if you're willing to shell out $40. Belkin makes an adaptor for this. http://www.apple.com/shop/product/HKKP2ZM/A/belkin-lightning...
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