Introducing a new kind of Wi-Fi system

Post by givinguflac » Wed, Oct 05, 2016, 1:35 AM UTC

modeless wrote: post #112

mikecb wrote: post #105

Just for everyone focusing on gimmicky features, this is an OnHub, which are intended to just work. Under the hood, they run ChromiumOS, including things like trusted boot (yes, this home router has a tpm), and the A/B partitions so when you get an automatic update, (which happens during a time of low bandwidth usage), it reboots into the new version in about 6 seconds. The security team is awesome: they pushed an up…

Wait, OnHub doesn't support IPv6?! That's inexcusable. There's no reason IPv6 couldn't "just work" too. Google Wifi had better support IPv6 at launch.

Post by SubiculumCode » Wed, Oct 05, 2016, 1:37 AM UTC

Morgawr wrote: post #11

calinet6 wrote: post #3

Serious question: whose WiFi is not working, to the degree that they think, "I really need to get a modern router to make this Internet thing actually work." I'm seeing about a dozen fancy modern wifi routers all trying to solve a problem I'm not sure exists.

Disclaimer: I am employed by Google but I do not work nor have any affiliation with this product, this is just my opinion and not that of my employer. All the experience I've always had with wifi in the last ~10 years has been abysmal. I play games and make a lot of use of internet (downloading, working through ssh sessions, etc) and the slight hiccup and packet loss is very evident in my system and frustrates me a l…

Post by acdha » Wed, Oct 05, 2016, 1:40 AM UTC

mikeyouse wrote: post #116

teacup50 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless you have lead walls, a ~1000 sq ft apartment should be fully covered by a single access point. The problem in NYC is that there's just too much band crowding; adding more access points is only going to provide an improvement (if any at all) until everyone else does it, too, and then it's going to be worse for everyone. We really need better solutions for extremely high-density deployment of competing WiFi netw…

Unfortunately, it doesn't take lead to attenuate WiFi signals. Many turn-of-the-century buildings used chickenwire under plaster on the interior walls. This makes a pretty effective Faraday cage: http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB126221116097210861 My SF apartment is the same -- well under 1,000sqft, need an enterprise router and a substantial repeater to get signal on the end opposite from the cable modem.

Post by acdha » Wed, Oct 05, 2016, 1:52 AM UTC

eridius wrote: post #82

I'm surprised nobody here has yet questioned the wisdom of allowing Google access to literally all of your internet traffic. This is actually a commercial product that you pay money for, so maybe they're all aboveboard here, but with Google's history of trying to get as much personal data as possible about everybody makes me unwilling to trust them with something like this. On a different note, is there any reason wh…

Post by lucb1e » Wed, Oct 05, 2016, 1:55 AM UTC

jrockway wrote: post #123

modeless wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe you haven't checked lately but we live in a world where IPv6 adoption is over 10% (over 25% in the US) after doubling each year for the past 6 years. https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html

IPv6 is important, but it's not like your ISP will lower your bill if you forego IPv4, and it's not like there are IPv6-only sites. If I recall correctly, I have to pay _extra_ for an IPv6 address.