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Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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Post by movedx »

ashark wrote: post #34
dubcanada wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but Google is exceptionally good at fragmentation and confusion in regards to products. How many gmail apps do they have? Inbox, gmail, android mail (though this got deprecated), web interface, etc. Youtube now has 2 apps, a web interface. They seem to like to make new stuff, rather then upgrade their existing stuff. Then every second year they just go through their stack and deprecate 30% of it.

> Inbox, gmail, android mail (though this got deprecated) Don't forget the cleanest, best-performing one: the classic "Basic HTML" interface. Which manages to be much faster for most operations than Inbox or the AJAXified normal version despited having to reload the whole page.

You just have to love that classic approach to web development, right?

JavaScript is great for improving the user experience, but it's often vastly overused and just makes me scream for simpler times such as the classic web app.

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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Post by movedx »

qwertyuiop924 wrote: post #65
macspoofing wrote: post #63

>But even as they discover the joys of YouTube, their experience is not great on slower connections and less powerful mobile phone .. Or on fast connections but with data caps. So outside of wifi, Youtube is unusable. I'll watch two-three videos and I'll hit my monthly cap. Almost every single issue India users experience is a problem everywhere else. Every solution they came up with would be useful for users everywh…

If you're careful, you can get a good number of videos on a data plan, depending on what your cap is. At least, I can, but my cap is pretty big.

Can you expand more on what it is to be "careful"? What can I do to reduce the data usage when attempting to view a long video?

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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Post by yellowapple »

toomanybeersies wrote: post #128
gue5t wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try youtube-dl (before the international copyright police C&D it). I'm sure there's an app wrapper that can handle intents (NewPipe? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12591466 ), and then you can open the videos in the VLC app. The owners of YouTube do not have it in their best interest to provide you with flexible, no-nonsense tools.

Wow, cheers for that. I was looking for a youtube video downloader a week or two back, but was really struggling to find one that wasn't spamware.

There's also a Greasemonkey userscript called "YouTube Center" (https://github.com/YePpHa/YouTubeCenter/wiki) that I've found to work pretty well for an in-browser tool.

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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Post by yellowapple »

ultramancool wrote: post #36
JoshTriplett wrote: post #19

Hopefully this will actually work in all countries; I'd love to save videos for offline viewing while I have a wifi connection and watch them later when I don't. But that would compete with "YouTube Red". For that matter, since an offline video eliminates the buffering problem, I'd love to have the "playback speed" feature in the mobile app. The web version of YouTube supports changing the playback speed to 1.25x, 1.…

Try NewPipe, it's an open source YouTube downloader and background player for Android: https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=org.schabi.newpi...

NewPipe is what I use exclusively now for YouTube (my phone is currently GApps-free). Works great.

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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Post by mynameislegion »

gue5t wrote: post #107
izacus wrote: post #99

So now there's YouTube app (which doens't allow me to listen to a talk offline on an airplane or background or pay for YouTube Red), YouTube Music app (which I'm not allowed to use at all), YouTube Gaming (which has an UI and UX build by a madman). Then there's AndroidTV version of YouTube app which has severe feature limitations and probably some others as well. I don't really like to be negative, but it doesn't see…

Try youtube-dl (before the international copyright police C&D it). I'm sure there's an app wrapper that can handle intents (NewPipe? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12591466 ), and then you can open the videos in the VLC app. The owners of YouTube do not have it in their best interest to provide you with flexible, no-nonsense tools.

More tools along the same lines: cclive get-flash-videos iview-cli nomnom pafy svtplay-dl quvi nicovideo-dl WWW::YouTube::Download

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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Post by elmigranto »

Ph0X wrote: post #120
krisroadruck wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Im uh... not sure what you are on about with the red and download bit. Im a youtube red subscriber, and I can download videos for offline viewing in the youtube app. It also indicates that I am a red subscriber in it.

I think he's referring to the fact that Youtube Red is not available in every country yet. I think each of these address a very different problem, and completely disagree with him. Trying to bundle all of these things into one big app will just make the app bloated and development painful. Youtube at this point has many different uses (average length videos, live streams, music/audio) and trying to have a one size fi…

I know! Google should make a separate app for each channel :)

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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Post by quirkafleeg »

ljk wrote: post #110
gue5t wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try youtube-dl (before the international copyright police C&D it). I'm sure there's an app wrapper that can handle intents (NewPipe? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12591466 ), and then you can open the videos in the VLC app. The owners of YouTube do not have it in their best interest to provide you with flexible, no-nonsense tools.

https://www.pwnyoutube.com/watch?v=[link] also works

What am I missing here?

I paste a Youtube link into one of the hundreds of Google results for "Youtube downloader" and I get a bunch of clear Google video download links in various formats.

I paste a URL into "PWN Youtube" and I get this (buried in a mass of other text I don't care about, hard selling me to spam the site on FB/Twitter/Friends):

    Download this video as FLV or MP4 files
    Use one of: Peggo | Telecharger(warning) | SaveFrom
        9xbuddy(warning) | File2HD (?) | Dirpy(warning)
If I have to jump through another hoop of visiting some other dodgy website - some literally have warnings next to them (!) - to eventually get a download link, what's the point of "PWN Youtube"? Why don't I just use the dodgy sites directly (or, even easier, use their bookmarklets)?

> This website is not affiliated with YouTube.com "YouTube" is a copyright of YouTube, LLC.

Probably shouldn't be using the word/trademark in its domain name then.

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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Post by est »

izacus wrote: post #99

So now there's YouTube app (which doens't allow me to listen to a talk offline on an airplane or background or pay for YouTube Red), YouTube Music app (which I'm not allowed to use at all), YouTube Gaming (which has an UI and UX build by a madman). Then there's AndroidTV version of YouTube app which has severe feature limitations and probably some others as well. I don't really like to be negative, but it doesn't see…

That's the outside view. For a inside view, it's pretty much résumé-driven development. Everyone in the team wins.

And offline stuff won't happen on the main Youtube app because politics.

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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Post by dingo_bat »

bonjurkes wrote: post #74

"While in Nagpur, I met a young man who loved using YouTube to watch WWE wrestling and wanted to show us his favorite video. But after he found it and tapped to play, the video just wouldn’t load" I believe this is really bad example, as WWE is a "premium content" so you have to pay extra to watch it. Therefore Youtube removes those videos (there is only 2 WWE videos which is from legal accounts). So it's pretty awkw…

I can find so many wwe videos on YouTube. Who cares if it is from an official channel or not?

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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Post by dingo_bat »

ToastyMallows wrote: post #85
bonjurkes wrote: post #74

"While in Nagpur, I met a young man who loved using YouTube to watch WWE wrestling and wanted to show us his favorite video. But after he found it and tapped to play, the video just wouldn’t load" I believe this is really bad example, as WWE is a "premium content" so you have to pay extra to watch it. Therefore Youtube removes those videos (there is only 2 WWE videos which is from legal accounts). So it's pretty awkw…

This also struck me. I was surprised that they picked WWE of all things, you would think that video would be region locked and thus not available outside of the US, like a lot of things are.

I'm in India. I searched "wwe". Tons of videos. No evidence of region blocking or as another person said "premium content". Have a look: http://imgur.com/8xgmnDq

Maybe they are premium content in US but free here.

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