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Re: Logo Pizza: Hot and ready logos for sale

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Post by kirykl »

condescendence wrote: post #28
pram wrote: post #21

Wouldn't it make more sense that the price would go down as more are purchased, as the most popular logos are already taken? Is someone really going to pay $1000 for 'Mr. Grin'

After spending much time among entrepreneurs I find that there are very few with a "business" mind. Great idea, horrible model. This pricing model is so far out of left field that I had to do some research to see if it's ever been successful. It hasn't. Although https://github.com/metafizzy is kinda interesting (what this websites UI is based off of)

Steve & Barry's used this model in retail stores.

At opening the whole store would be priced at $5 or so then slowly it would raise the price every few weeks

They did however go bankrupt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_%26_Barry%27s

Re: Logo Pizza: Hot and ready logos for sale

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Post by giarc »

FilterSweep wrote: post #110
gthtjtkt wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I tested out Fiverr by hiring 3 people to do simple T-shirt designs for $10-$15 each. Everything I got back was either stolen from somewhere else, extremely poor quality, or didn't fit my request at all. I'm sure there are great people on Fiverr, but you have to do a lot of searching or get really lucky. Upwork costs more, but I think the increase in quality and communication ability more than offsets the price.

Even with just 3 people at $10-15 each, you could sink more money into Fiverr and come out with a better logo than the predominately flat-UI only designs provided. However, Logo Pizza still has some (IMHO) great ones for sale Just wondering - how were you able to tell the idea was stolen from somewhere else? Simple reverse-image searching, or did you have a better procedure?

That's not a great strategy to just continue to pump $15 into fiverr hoping to eventually get something good. Does that happen when you get to $500 or $5000. You don't know when you start so you could just waste your money.

Re: Logo Pizza: Hot and ready logos for sale

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Post by FilterSweep »

91bananas wrote: post #10

Most of those logos remind me of 90's clipart programs on Windows.

They're flat design!

They are currently "trendy" in the front-end world, but for how much longer, I've been too far removed from front-end development to know. Here's an interesting read in the shift (semi-recently, mind you, 2013) [0]

[0] http://www.ucreative.com/articles/design-wars-flat-design-vs...

Re: Logo Pizza: Hot and ready logos for sale

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Post by giarc »

ChuckMcM wrote: post #76

Fun site, the magic is this one line: " Need a custom logo? Let’s chat! yo@metafizzy.co " The chance of you needing one of the pre-existing logos is small, the chance of needing a logo period is higher, and seeing the portfolio of logos gives you a starting point to imagine things. The only negative is that it might anchor you emotionally to a lower than average price if the current logo price is small enough. The we…

For all we know, these could be throw away's from previous work the designer did with other customers. "One man's trash..."

Re: Logo Pizza: Hot and ready logos for sale

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Post by dexterdog »

tedmiston wrote: post #60
condescendence wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

After spending much time among entrepreneurs I find that there are very few with a "business" mind. Great idea, horrible model. This pricing model is so far out of left field that I had to do some research to see if it's ever been successful. It hasn't. Although https://github.com/metafizzy is kinda interesting (what this websites UI is based off of)

Some very smooth JavaScript UI widgets on their site too http://metafizzy.co

I have been using isotope and masonry for years. Great tools.

Re: Logo Pizza: Hot and ready logos for sale

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Post by gthtjtkt »

FilterSweep wrote: post #110
gthtjtkt wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I tested out Fiverr by hiring 3 people to do simple T-shirt designs for $10-$15 each. Everything I got back was either stolen from somewhere else, extremely poor quality, or didn't fit my request at all. I'm sure there are great people on Fiverr, but you have to do a lot of searching or get really lucky. Upwork costs more, but I think the increase in quality and communication ability more than offsets the price.

Even with just 3 people at $10-15 each, you could sink more money into Fiverr and come out with a better logo than the predominately flat-UI only designs provided. However, Logo Pizza still has some (IMHO) great ones for sale Just wondering - how were you able to tell the idea was stolen from somewhere else? Simple reverse-image searching, or did you have a better procedure?

> Even with just 3 people at $10-15 each, you could sink more money into Fiverr and come out with a better logo than the predominately flat-UI only designs provided. However, Logo Pizza still has some (IMHO) great ones for sale

Maybe. But like I said, you'd have to do a TON of filtering to find someone good or get extremely lucky. Fiverr is flooded with people who only do the bare minimum to fill the request, then they'll pester you endlessly until you accept it and give them a 5 star rating.

Either that or you'll get tired of having to request countless revisions because they can't understand English and keep giving you work that's nothing like what you requested.

> Just wondering - how were you able to tell the idea was stolen from somewhere else? Simple reverse-image searching, or did you have a better procedure?

I just did exactly what I figured they would do: Googled some terms from my request and looked through the images that came up. Didn't have to look very far.

Re: Logo Pizza: Hot and ready logos for sale

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Post by leksak »

jo909 wrote: post #126

This makes it look like getting a logo is easy and quick. And it can be, probably. It's not my area of expertise, but I would expect there are some pitfalls just like with company names, app branding and other branding/trademark stuff. I would not want my logo to be too similar to somebody else, and researching that is probably tricky.

The person that made this site would probably be sued if he/she sold a logo to a company that's too similar to existing work, arguably not before the company itself gets sued. Hence, for new companies it's a gamble as the legal fees could put them out of business.

Maybe there is a disclaimer somewhere on the site, but I haven't found it.

Regardless, finding out whether or not a logo that you produced (or a design studio produced) is too similar to already existing work is difficult as images cannot be as easily searched as plain-text. This is hard for design studios too.

Also, and this is speaking as a layman, but initiating such a legal affair probably requires a trademark.

Re: Logo Pizza: Hot and ready logos for sale

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Post by davemel37 »

condescendence wrote: post #28
pram wrote: post #21

Wouldn't it make more sense that the price would go down as more are purchased, as the most popular logos are already taken? Is someone really going to pay $1000 for 'Mr. Grin'

After spending much time among entrepreneurs I find that there are very few with a "business" mind. Great idea, horrible model. This pricing model is so far out of left field that I had to do some research to see if it's ever been successful. It hasn't. Although https://github.com/metafizzy is kinda interesting (what this websites UI is based off of)

>"After spending much time among entrepreneurs I find that there are very few with a "business" mind. Great idea, horrible model."

It's very risky to preface your opinion with a statement that might reflect on yourself potentially.

IMO,

This model is used successfully all the time in hundreds of variations, from Saas products upping prices as they add features, to people buying on sale before the price goes up, to penny auctions.

This is simple and brilliant marketing combining Fear of Missing Out, combined with fear of overpaying.

It literally works all the time.

Re: Logo Pizza: Hot and ready logos for sale

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Post by FilterSweep »

giarc wrote: post #132
FilterSweep wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even with just 3 people at $10-15 each, you could sink more money into Fiverr and come out with a better logo than the predominately flat-UI only designs provided. However, Logo Pizza still has some (IMHO) great ones for sale Just wondering - how were you able to tell the idea was stolen from somewhere else? Simple reverse-image searching, or did you have a better procedure?

That's not a great strategy to just continue to pump $15 into fiverr hoping to eventually get something good. Does that happen when you get to $500 or $5000. You don't know when you start so you could just waste your money.

I fully agree the strategy is unreliable.

But, for rapid development of prototype, or early stage products, I could see a few $15 injections going a much farther way than abandoning a project and having dropped $299 or even more into a 99Designs (or 'higher-end') logo[0].

I would always double back and get a more professional looking design that is also coherent with the Web App look & feel or product page look & feel.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12488500

Re: Logo Pizza: Hot and ready logos for sale

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Post by xigency »

eloisant wrote: post #75
pram wrote: post #21

Wouldn't it make more sense that the price would go down as more are purchased, as the most popular logos are already taken? Is someone really going to pay $1000 for 'Mr. Grin'

I think he wants people to hurry and buy it now before it goes up, rather than holding off and wait until it gets cheap enough. That's a classical business move, like any "time limited sale", force people to buy it right now before they have the time to think whether they need it or not.

Does a logo really strike you as a thing that you want to "hurry and buy it now" compared to spending some time looking at it?
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