At some point in the future, someone is going to fly to that comet, land, get out of their vessel and walk over to Philae and smile, give it a pat on the head, and then take it home; someone in the future is going to be lucky enough to experience that task and become a part of its history.
I don't think you can really walk on the surface. There's hardly any gravity.
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Scientifically speaking, a successful mission is one where you've gathered all the data for analysis and can work with it long after the mission is over. It's like, if SpaceX launches a rocket and it explodes - a real failure would be if they captured no telemetry and had no idea what happened vs knowing everything that happened and being able to replay the mission after the fact. Often times the data is far more imp…
This is the "everyone deserves a trophy" definition of space travel success.
When a rocket explodes on a launch pad, and you've gathered petabytes of telemetry data and sensory data from all of it's systems, you can study and research that data to figure out what went wrong and put procedures and systems in place to mitigate that in the future. You learn from the mistakes, thus the outcome of the failure is a success. This doesn't mean we should stand in the viewing area of SpaceX's control center and cheer them on for their work in making a rocket explode. They still failed their mission, but they can make their future missions more safe and more robust because of what they learned in a real world failure situation.
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Certainly I started thinking about better ways once this image made it clear what we (humans) are dealing with here. I can imagine a cage-like outer shell where the robot inside is able to rotate on two axes under power. Let it tumble any which way and then use sensors to determine the correct orientation and right itself. NASA has a concept for this: https://ti.arc.nasa.gov/tech/asr/intelligent-robotics/tenseg...
That's pretty much what Spirit and Opportunity's airbag landing system was, although a lot simpler --- it was set up so that no matter what way up it was after it came to a rest (after bouncing and rolling!), when the bags deflated it would automatically roll the right way up so that when the deployment mechanism finally opened, the rover could just drive out. I've tried to find a video showing it happening, but whil…
Here you go. Really enjoyed watching that.
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There's also the argument for doing things a better way. Our propulsion systems suck, which is why we're having to send robots to comets instead of humans. Humans don't get stuck in cracks. Robots get stuck in cracks because they have no clue how to measure things they've never seen before.
With our current understanding of physics, chemical rockets have one giant engineering advantage: the same mass that is consumed for energy production is also the reaction mass. So anything better for imparting large delta-Vs has to be non-newtonian and our current understanding of physics does not allow existence of any such thing.
Nuclear thermal, and nuclear/solar electric (aka ion) rockets achieve better specific impulse despite carrying separate weight for power. Some nuclear designs (e.g. Orion as johncolanduoni said) do have overlap between reaction mass and energy source mass. Solar sails, ground lasers, and gravity assists avoid some of the need for carrying reaction mass. All these are perfectly newtonian.
Chemical does win among currently working designs at accelerating quickly, which is critical for human exploration, and to some degree for getting to orbit. There is no inherent physical reason alternatives can't achieve that.
I must recommend the extremely fun Project Rho site though I'm just started reading it: http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/enginelist.php It's not always clear where existing science ends and Sci-Fi begins, but that's generally on technology barriers (e.g. we haven't yet managed break-even contained fusion), not mythical "entirely new understanding of physics". And the amount of actual science — detailed papers, prototypes etc — on diverse and bizzare drive designs is way more than I expected!