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Sam Altman talks with Mark Zuckerberg about how to build the future [video]

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Re: Sam Altman talks with Mark Zuckerberg about how to build the future [video]

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Post by jomamaxx »

eatkinson wrote: post #107
zouhair wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And also be extremely lucky.

"I find that the major objection is that people think great science is done by luck. It's all a matter of luck. Well, consider Einstein. Note how many different things he did that were good. Was it all luck? Wasn't it a little too repetitive? Consider Shannon. He didn't do just information theory. Several years before, he did some other good things and some which are still locked up in the security of cryptography. H…

There was a lot of luck in Facebook, even if Zuck is a particularly talented individual.

Also - if Harvard is a great school - how the F does someone find time to do the work and make a product at the same time?

When I did Engineering, I didn't have time to take a shower.

Re: Sam Altman talks with Mark Zuckerberg about how to build the future [video]

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Post by bayonetz »

dang wrote: post #120
thefastlane wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

power and privilege help too.

That they do, but the problem with taking the conversation in this direction is that it gets us all thinking in terms of how some people have had it easier, instead of what we can do that's valuable of our own.

I'd counter that taking it in this direction can actually help you get more honest with yourself about what value you can provide. For example, if you don't have wealth or privilege behind you, you may should maybe focus being the technical founder rather than the CEO in a start up situation. if you buy into the myth that everyone has an equal shot it can be quite discouraging and at the same time mystifying as to why things aren't working out. If you have a clear sense of ALL the inputs that your favorite startup success had going for it, then you can make informed decisions about what you have to offer and what you are likely capable given your particular set of inputs and resources.

Re: Sam Altman talks with Mark Zuckerberg about how to build the future [video]

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Post by metaphorm »

eatkinson wrote: post #107
zouhair wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And also be extremely lucky.

"I find that the major objection is that people think great science is done by luck. It's all a matter of luck. Well, consider Einstein. Note how many different things he did that were good. Was it all luck? Wasn't it a little too repetitive? Consider Shannon. He didn't do just information theory. Several years before, he did some other good things and some which are still locked up in the security of cryptography. H…

scientific discoveries and social network websites aren't in the same class and this reasoning doesn't apply to the latter.

Re: Sam Altman talks with Mark Zuckerberg about how to build the future [video]

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Post by fbdinglebore »

> And just to make this point, how far into Facebook did it actually become a company?

> I don't know. I think it became a formal Delaware company when Peter Thiel invested about six months in.

Isn't this an outright lie? He sure stammered over his answer. He's joked himself about the fact that Edwardo incorporated Facebook as a Florida LLC originally.

This is how history gets rewritten to be more streamlined...

The fact is Zuckerberg was extremely ambitious about starting a company and had many attempts. That Florida LLC could've been dissolved easily if Facebook had failed. There's no downside to incorporating really.

Re: Sam Altman talks with Mark Zuckerberg about how to build the future [video]

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Post by perseusprime11 »

jomamaxx wrote: post #131
eatkinson wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"I find that the major objection is that people think great science is done by luck. It's all a matter of luck. Well, consider Einstein. Note how many different things he did that were good. Was it all luck? Wasn't it a little too repetitive? Consider Shannon. He didn't do just information theory. Several years before, he did some other good things and some which are still locked up in the security of cryptography. H…

There was a lot of luck in Facebook, even if Zuck is a particularly talented individual. Also - if Harvard is a great school - how the F does someone find time to do the work and make a product at the same time? When I did Engineering, I didn't have time to take a shower.

I agree. Think if Friendster & Myspace were on top of things, they would have bested Facebook. What made them suscpetible for disruption?

Re: Sam Altman talks with Mark Zuckerberg about how to build the future [video]

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Post by bozoUser »

Two things that need to be highlighted:

I came looking for a video that would talk about building the future and I am surprised Sam & Mark spent lot of time talking about FB origins and other things related to FB and talk future only for the last few minutes.

Its almost palpable the cold nature of the interview, they don`t shake hands nor greet each other as someone else noted the conversation seems very detached to say the least.

Re: Sam Altman talks with Mark Zuckerberg about how to build the future [video]

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Post by perseusprime11 »

aresant wrote: post #27

The TL;DR of how Zuck wants to build FB's future w/his quotes: 1) "Connectivity, so getting everyone in the world on the Internet." 2) "The next one is AI. I think that that's just going to unlock so much potential in so many different domains." 3) "[The next computing platform] - I think that's going to be virtual reality and augmented reality." For all the flack that Zuck is getting in this thread he lays out a pre…

Connectivity is saying he is focused on top of the funnel so he can convert some of them to use Facebook.

Re: Sam Altman talks with Mark Zuckerberg about how to build the future [video]

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Post by readhn »

Why is M. Zuckerberg qualified to tell us how or to build us our future? Because he built brain dead website where people waste their precious time and lives?

Building facebook - glorified yellowpages - is somehow a sign of high knowledge or achievement these days?

Re: Sam Altman talks with Mark Zuckerberg about how to build the future [video]

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Post by perseusprime11 »

jseliger wrote: post #112
aresant wrote: post #27

The TL;DR of how Zuck wants to build FB's future w/his quotes: 1) "Connectivity, so getting everyone in the world on the Internet." 2) "The next one is AI. I think that that's just going to unlock so much potential in so many different domains." 3) "[The next computing platform] - I think that's going to be virtual reality and augmented reality." For all the flack that Zuck is getting in this thread he lays out a pre…

For all the flack that Zuck is getting in this thread It's pretty safe to ignore most of the flack in this thread. Most people vote with their feet (or wallets, or eyeballs, or attention), and they've voted that they love Facebook, regardless of what a minority of people in this thread say or upvote. Nerds have a cantankerous side and are as prone to virtue signalling as any other group. Those of us who read Slashdot…

I don't think he is getting much flack. I think he is more like Bill Gates with some luck involved. Let us not try to put him in the same bucket as Steve Jobs or Elon Musk. Facebook started as a way to hook up college students, remember poke? It did not start out as a vision to connect the world
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