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Salary transparency at Stack Overflow
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Re: Salary transparency at Stack Overflow
#132Are these closely aligned with their actual salaries? Less than $10K of cost of living adjustment for Bay Area positions?
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#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
it sounds a bit too idealistic. How about if someone is hired at a hire rate because "well we needed someone with his skill set ASAP, so we agreed to pay him a premium" (but we can't afford to pay everyone at that rate) or "We desperately needed someone quickly with skill set X and he was the only person available" And sometimes comparing people and their skill sets is really apples to oranges. If one guy is an exper…
> Sure, pay people way above market rate and don't allow them to compare wages That sounds illegal. Can you really not allow your employees to compare wages?
In the US at least (I can't speak for elsewhere), preventing this is illegal. Companies discourage it through various ways and it's practically an embedded culture thing at this point throughout the country. But: you cannot legally prevent it.
The National Labor Relations Act of 1935 is what you're looking for here - it provides employee protections for such discussions.
Re: Salary transparency at Stack Overflow
#134These salaries seem SUPER low. Engineering manager with 15 years experience < 150k? Try 200+k here in NYC.
These salaries seem SUPER high. Developer with 10 years experience at 120k? I'm making less than half of that and don't feel particularly ripped off. (I guess both of our comments don't help a lot in general, except to show that you personally don't seem to consider an application at SO while I'd love to do just that)
I'm a developer with 10 years of experience living in the midwest and I'm making over 120k. Based on their calculator I'd actually take a reasonable pay cut if I wanted to go there.
Re: Salary transparency at Stack Overflow
#135Earlier quoted context omitted.
Whaa... I must be doing something wrong, because I'm in Dallas with 14 years of total engineering experience and 8 years of software engineering experience but have yet to break $93k.
Yeah, it's time to ask for a raise or look for a new job that pays you your market rate.
Just want confirm that while eachro's response here may sound flippant, I feel it's actually the plain truth and good advice.
Re: Salary transparency at Stack Overflow
#136As someone in recruiting and hiring, I love the concept of salary transparency on many levels, and I hope more companies at least make attempts like this to provide insight. That said, salary ranges and transparency can create two obvious issues. 1. Negotiations - I can tell you from vast past experience that when you tell an applicant "the salary range for this position is 80-100K", in almost every case any offer be…
Stack Overflow employee here, here's some answers (or at least, my take). Regarding point 1, remember that there are no salary negotiations at Stack Overflow. No one gets a raise because they ask. People get raises because they demonstrate skills, increase experience, etc... A candidate will have an initial skill evaluation they might not like, but they are pretty much guaranteed to have a much better one after one y…
> Secondly, I sincerely doubt we'd make an offer to a candidate that assumes their skills are all at the top of the range. "Fives" are extraordinarily rare, most employees have no fives, and the ones that do have one five.
I don't understand the rationality behind this. Why have (nearly) impossible to reach ratings? I mean, by this logic, the most talented people will only ever be a 4, yes? So make 4 the limit. You just came off of saying you'd never make an offer to an 80K candidate who thinks they're worth 100K[0]. Yet, you're telling your very best that they'll never be _the_ very best because basically nobody is a "five".
[0] It's what you were basically responding to.
Edit: for clarification.
Re: Salary transparency at Stack Overflow
#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Sure, pay people way above market rate and don't allow them to compare wages That sounds illegal. Can you really not allow your employees to compare wages?
In the US at least (I can't speak for elsewhere), preventing this is illegal. Companies discourage it through various ways and it's practically an embedded culture thing at this point throughout the country. But: you cannot legally prevent it. The National Labor Relations Act of 1935 is what you're looking for here - it provides employee protections for such discussions.
Yeah, it's interesting. They can't prevent it, but if you do it, you can guarantee you'll be fired. They'll just eliminate your position for some other reason.
Re: Salary transparency at Stack Overflow
#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Sure, pay people way above market rate and don't allow them to compare wages That sounds illegal. Can you really not allow your employees to compare wages?
In the US at least (I can't speak for elsewhere), preventing this is illegal. Companies discourage it through various ways and it's practically an embedded culture thing at this point throughout the country. But: you cannot legally prevent it. The National Labor Relations Act of 1935 is what you're looking for here - it provides employee protections for such discussions.
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Re: Salary transparency at Stack Overflow
#139Link is down:
> Couldn't find blog.stackoverflow.com
> The Q&A site blog.stackoverflow.com doesn't seem to exist…yet.
Re: Salary transparency at Stack Overflow
#140I'd say these are low for NYC. I have no experience, came from a bootcamp and live in NYC. I'm starting at $85K. With a year of experience I'm looking for $110K. In 5 years I'd be looking for $150K on the low end based on talking with others.