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If this is for real... It is really sad. I understood that xenophobia was the main reason Great Britain wanted to get out of EU, which is also sad.
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On the contrary, the fact the EU had enormous power over British people, yet barely anyone knew what it was, what it did, or why it was important, was a compelling reason for the UK to leave.
"Enormous power"; do not paint it as if it were a confederacy. The EU has been a scapegoat in Britain for decades. The elites used it to justify many a policy that would hurt the middle class, while pushing for more and more liberalization once in the EU parliament. The average guy in Britain is just as much at fault here for not following what has been happening. They kept reading their fucking tabloids, the reality…
If anything vote simply reaffirms that EU favoring side either failed to communicate properly why it was good to stay or worse, failed to recognize or acknowledge real issues that existed and take action to explain them or fix them. As in, far too often the exit crowd was portrayed and ignorant, bigoted, or worse, and you do not convince people your side is right when you attack them
plus it benefits the EU to make it all doom and gloom because this loose grouping was never bound to be successful without more tight knit integration, something they knew they could not sell.
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I originally posted the comment without "certain" and then immediately went back and added it, because I was afraid someone would think I was referring to all Trump supporters without it. Apparently it didn't work anyway.
I didn't think you or anyone else thinks it's all. But so much of news coverage (and forum arguments) are about the fringe elements which are basically nothing more than strawmen. Saying that there are some people ignorant of what they are voting for is not news. Stating that one side has ignorant voters carries implications that the other side is correct and right thinking.
"Stating that one side has ignorant voters carries implications that the other side is correct and right thinking."
No it doesn't. Why would you say that? I can't even.
This sort of distain-for-plebes arrogance on the part of the elites is why they will continue to be surprised by events for the foreseeable future.
Why not to have referendum on taxes? Care to guess the outcome?
Isn't that expected? People who voted for the establishment status quo want to know what might happen in the years to come now that the vote has gone against them. Voting to stay meant no change, therefore they knew more or less the outcome, but now that the outcome is opposite their votes, they want to look into the repercussions --this informs that it's likely they stay vote didn't investigate the alternative befor…
I just saw an interview with a young woman who was expressing that most of her family voted "yes" out of protest, and now they're already regretting it, seeing what the fallout is.
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That reminds me of certain American voters saying they support Trump just because they want to tear the system down. I don't think they realize what tearing the system down would actually mean.
When you're in an abusive relationship it's always harder to pack up and leave than it is to stay. You've gotta do it though, because the long term consequences of living with your abuser are unacceptable.
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I think you're drawing conclusions based on your biases just as much as wapo is. You don't know who is googling the EU right now, or what their motivations are. Just as much as some remain votes were blind votes for the status quo, some leave votes were blind votes for change.
Right... But then again, I'm not a journo at the WaPo. They are making these implications without knowing who... However I find it likely the Stay voters would be interested to know the implications of the vote now that the vote has gone against them.
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How do you know that they regret it "in many cases"?
Gut feeling after reading the article I suppose? Would you really be surprised if many voters didn't know what they were voting for? Especially if the outcome is one agreed upon by most intellectuals to be the worse outcome.
I'm not sure that individual voters that have no conception of the myriad issues associated with this decision should have been allowed to vote on it.