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I share this "pain". I have the unshakable habit of triple-clicking a paragraph to highlight it to serve as a mark of where I was at when i need to interrupt reading.

I also have the same ehabit. I a glad I am not the only one.

I too am a highlighter

Re: Introducing docs.microsoft.com

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A better option is to expand to multiple columns, like Newspapers discovered centuries ago.

That only works when your content fits on a screen because it messes with the scrolling-based nature of the web (or screen content in general – just picture how awkward it is to read an A4-portrait multi-column PDF with fit-to-width on screen).

Personally, I like well-columned stuff switching to scroll horizontally.

(It's one of the things I loved about the design style of Windows 8 apps that has been lost in the Windows 8 hate, and admittedly was a part of the Windows 8 hate, because people don't respect a good horizontal scroll of columnar reading material, sigh.)

Re: Introducing docs.microsoft.com

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post #83

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So what do you guys think of HN? I get frustrated by how if I drag the selection down on HN comments, the selection will "hop" up at certain points. It's very aesthetically unpleasing, but I just need to click and drag select whatever I'm reading.

fwiw, I believe this is due to HN's archaic table-based html layout, as opposed to some javascript code like on medium and this new ms docs site.

This is it.

It has to do with border-spacing between table cells -- when you select text that runs into the border-spacing, it resets the selection to go from 1) original cell 2) start of the table 3) next cell.

With more sane styling (ie: setting border-spacing to 0), the selection won't jump to the start of the table.

Re: Introducing docs.microsoft.com

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Oh no. It pops up a quick menu when I select text, like Medium. The problem is that I'm constantly selecting the lines I'm reading. :( Edit: Also, it's extremely narrow. On my 32" 4K display, 70% of the screen is empty. And the font is too think. And stuff keeps moving/jumping when I'm moving the mouse cursor. I want 1998 back.

Hold the button while you read, the popup appears on mouse button up and not on the press itself.

No

Re: Introducing docs.microsoft.com

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post #106

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> Livefyre: The Leading Content Marketing and Engagement Platform Looks like something to block regardless of whether it creates annoying menus. Is anyone else a little surprised (and perhaps repulsed) by Microsoft putting semi-shady 3rd-party scripts like this on their site? This seems completely opposite of what the Microsoft I knew would do.

I've seen them used to power comments on some sites, which is why I left them enabled after I installed Ghostery. I might reconsider if I see them putting junk into other websites though.

Looks like you can block just //cdn.livefyre.com/libs/sidenotes/v1.3.3/sidenotes.min.js to get rid of the inline popups.

Re: Introducing docs.microsoft.com

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I share this "pain". I have the unshakable habit of triple-clicking a paragraph to highlight it to serve as a mark of where I was at when i need to interrupt reading.

I also have the same ehabit. I a glad I am not the only one.

Me too, anyone know why this is a thing? Such a common twitch... does it help reading?

Re: Introducing docs.microsoft.com

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Oh no. It pops up a quick menu when I select text, like Medium. The problem is that I'm constantly selecting the lines I'm reading. :( Edit: Also, it's extremely narrow. On my 32" 4K display, 70% of the screen is empty. And the font is too think. And stuff keeps moving/jumping when I'm moving the mouse cursor. I want 1998 back.

> Also, it's extremely narrow. On my 32" 4K display, 70% of the screen is empty. And the font is too think. And stuff keeps moving/jumping when I'm moving the mouse cursor.

Why maximize a browser window on such a screen? Three or four windows side by side would take advantage of it.

Re: Introducing docs.microsoft.com

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> The problem is that I'm constantly selecting the lines I'm reading I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one! I compulsively select random blocks of text: select up, select down, repeat. I definitely get annoyed with the popup-menu-on-select feature of Medium, but I feel I can hardly blame Medium for my random, compulsive habit.

Hey, don't sell yourself short. It's akin to using your finger while reading a book. It helps you to keep your place and focus, which the highlighting in browsers works even better for. So I wouldn't necessarily call it a quirk that Microsoft doesn't have to account for. Webdevs should really stop overriding browser defaults in detriment to the user experience. (nothing is more evil than clipboard hijacking)

I wonder what proportion of the web population does this, and if they have a demographic skew. I think I remember starting this back in the late 90's in response to a combination of extremely janky, inconsistent scrolling and tiny monitors which made me easily lose my place while reading a long article. So I'd highlight a section of text before scrolling as a marker, which developed into a compulsion over time. The constant clicking drives my friends and coworkers nuts.

Re: Introducing docs.microsoft.com

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post #103

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Ha! So a lot of us have that strange problem! :) And I hate it too when websites do funky pop-up stuff on text selection. But somehow, I don't see that problem on this website. Which browser are you using?

I see this on Firefox on Win10. And you have to hit the back button twice to go back, which happens on a lot of Microsoft sites. Edit: looks like it's being served from fyre.co, which might be blocked by adblockers?

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Re: Introducing docs.microsoft.com

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post #103

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Ha! So a lot of us have that strange problem! :) And I hate it too when websites do funky pop-up stuff on text selection. But somehow, I don't see that problem on this website. Which browser are you using?

I see this on Firefox on Win10. And you have to hit the back button twice to go back, which happens on a lot of Microsoft sites. Edit: looks like it's being served from fyre.co, which might be blocked by adblockers?

> And you have to hit the back button twice to go back

Could browsers not be smarter about this? If I'm on page A and I click a link X that redirects to B, when I click back I expect to go back to A, especially if X still redirects to B.

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