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Autre Frenchie ici-présent. I concur. A tip to foreigners: it's considered exceptionally rude not to say hello to someone behind the counter, or when entering a store. I often cringe when I see Americans order something at a café counter: they have the best intentions, they're trying hard to be polite, and right off the bad they commit a huge faux-pas by immediately saying "un café s'il vous plait!". tl;dr: always st…
Only the French could describe asking for a coffee with "please" on the end as "exceptionally rude". It's almost petty. You will forgive any other faux-pas as long as you start the interaction with "bonjour"? And if you mis-pronounce "bonjour"? Do we need to seek forgiveness from the President? I like flying over France and going to Spain and Italy where none of this nonsense exists.
Different countries have different cultural expectations and customs. In France not saying Bonjour is considered rude (and hello works in Paris by the way), in other countries other things are considered rude. It's not because you're traveling and a tourist that you do not need to try to learn and follow the local customs.
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I almost spit out my beer at "answered me back in English". My favorite language story is from when I was studying in eastern France (Strasbourg). I went across the border to the train station in Kehl, Germany, as I reasoned that train tickets inside Germany (I was on my way to Berlin) would be vastly cheaper than trying to buy the same ticket with an origin in Strasbourg. Anyway, I know a little bit of German, and s…
You know I think there is this phenomenon of "listening in the wrong language". As an American in France, sometimes I'd meet people and they'd want to try out their English with me. Every once in a while I'd meet someone and be totally confused by their French, and I'd have to ask for help. "Dude, he's speaking English to you". Then we'd both feel bad.
On the same trip, I was on a train from Italy to France. In my car was a French woman living in England, and an Italian woman. They were practicing on each other so the Italian would talk to the French woman in French, and she'd reply in Italian. This went on for some time. As we prepared to depart the train, the woman's child and husband joined her. I talked to the French woman's husband for 5 minutes or so. Eventually he asked me where I lived and I told him I was from California but studying in France. He turned out to be British, and switched to English and said "oh, well then I guess we can just speak in English then."
I'm sure our French pronunciation wouldn't have fooled a native, but it was good enough for a couple of foreigners.
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I think that this reputation is waaaay overblown, due to the mostly futile efforts of the Académie Française to preserve the "pure" French language. As an American who spent a semester in a high school in France, I remember being shocked hearing our French teacher use "le timing et le planning" discussing our strategy for how to write an in-class essay. This was an ordinary French class for French speakers made up of…
There is also the infamous "courriel" which overthrew the ubiquitous use of "email". http://archive.wired.com/culture/lifestyle/news/2003/07/5967...
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The French are very proud and protective of their language. I have a similar experience, I was asking Je cherche le croissants (or something: I'm looking for croissants), I got a blank stare until my friend made a very theatrical overly french "Croissants!" hand waving and all, then the supermarket guy understood. I know of no other language that invented new words when computers came to the market (ordinateur) or wh…
And yet there's tons of little anglicisms in French: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglicisme#Liste_d.27anglicism...
Lot of stereotypes in the comments. I'm little disappointed to read that on HN. Some commenters tell they had bad experiences in France. In my opinion, it's a case of confirmation bias and lack of understanding of cultural differences. For many reasons, you can't expect the same types of interactions with a waiter in Paris and one in NYC or Tokyo. I think people traveling to foreign countries should be open-minded an…
Lot of stereotypes in the comments. I'm little disappointed to read that on HN. Some commenters tell they had bad experiences in France. In my opinion, it's a case of confirmation bias and lack of understanding of cultural differences. For many reasons, you can't expect the same types of interactions with a waiter in Paris and one in NYC or Tokyo. I think people traveling to foreign countries should be open-minded an…
I think it's more pride than shyness mostly because of history and the rivalry with England. It's unconscious too.
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I used to have TV6 Monde here in California back when I had cable. The Quebecois programming was inevitably subtitled in (real) French, which was an endless source of humor for me.
My wife (we're American) watches a lot of British programming, and for some shows she has to put on the subtitles. Between certain English accents and slang, it's hard to follow sometimes.
But if you tell me it's difficult even for Americans I'm a bit reassured about my abilities ;-)
Android app would be much appreciated!