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Re: What's the Best Cloud? Probably GCP

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We don't use GUI to manage our resources. We use CloudFormation for AWS and Deployment Manager for Google. Let me tell you a couple of things about those services. In AWS some resources are zonal, some regional and some are global. It's a mess to work with. For example, same AMI image has different ids in different regions. You need to create maps and stuff to make your code work across regions. Come to Google Cloud,…

For me, GCP comes with unquantifiable existence risk. As in, how do I know that it won't get shut down in 5 years when some VP sees that it's not bringing in as much money as it should? I trust Amazon more in this regard, and their offering is not "so bad" that I feel a need to switch.

I understand your point, but GCP does address this in the terms of service (disclaimer: I work on Google Cloud):

7. Deprecation of Services

7.1 Discontinuance of Services. Subject to Section 7.2, Google may discontinue any Services or any portion or feature for any reason at any time without liability to Customer.

7.2 Deprecation Policy. Google will announce if it intends to discontinue or make backwards incompatible changes to the Services specified at the URL in the next sentence. Google will use commercially reasonable efforts to continue to operate those Services versions and features identified at https://cloud.google.com/terms/deprecation without these changes for at least one year after that announcement, unless (as Google determines in its reasonable good faith judgment):

(i) required by law or third party relationship (including if there is a change in applicable law or relationship), or

(ii) doing so could create a security risk or substantial economic or material technical burden.

The above policy is the "Deprecation Policy."

Re: What's the Best Cloud? Probably GCP

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As others have said, the simplicity of GCP has made it a pleasure to use. It has a great UI (material design), and the UX makes sense (the dashboard shows you a summary of your resources, resources are organized by project, notification/status icon animates when resources are changing, etc). Going back to the AWS dashboard feels clunky. There aren't a million different image types for each region and zone - simple, a…

(Disclaimer: I work on Google Cloud)

Thanks for your great review! We really appreciate it.

I hate to nitpick one point in what you said, but are you sure that S3 is cheaper than Google Cloud Storage? Glacier is definitely cheaper than we are, but they offer ~4 hour object retrieval latency. If you consider only services with real-time retrieval, I think we stack up quite well in both performance and price :).

Re: What's the Best Cloud? Probably GCP

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That's pretty annoying ... happened to us as well though. We had a requirement for PostgreSQL with 512GB of RAM. Can't do that on AWS, so we had to shard the database.

To be fair, GCE tops at 208 GB RAM currently, so you won't get your instance type there as well.

Wow .. that's even lower than AWS (max is 244GB): http://www.ec2instances.info/

Re: What's the Best Cloud? Probably GCP

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My main concern with GCP is its unreliability. BigQuery API randomly giving 40x/50x errors (that has been happening for over a year), signed URL API returning series of 50Xs every few days, CPU on instances going up to 100% for some unknown reason (they stay in that state until manually rebooted), and many other bigger or smaller issues. And they never respond to your questions. The UI is also weird (at least by my t…

Sorry to hear you've had a bad time. All of our Generally Available services have an SLA, including BigQuery: https://cloud.google.com/bigquery/sla which has a 99.9% monthly uptime target. Are you seeing errors more often than that? Additionally (and this isn't required), do you have a support package? I'm curious where you've been asking questions without response. If it's StackOverlow, that is best effort, but we d…

I asked my co-worker who usually contacts support, and in most cases we actually got some response (mine never got any reply though), but it was always full of buck passing. Like saying that these routing issues you're writing about must be caused by your browser, etc., then ignoring further questions.

Re: What's the Best Cloud? Probably GCP

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As others have said, the simplicity of GCP has made it a pleasure to use. It has a great UI (material design), and the UX makes sense (the dashboard shows you a summary of your resources, resources are organized by project, notification/status icon animates when resources are changing, etc). Going back to the AWS dashboard feels clunky. There aren't a million different image types for each region and zone - simple, a…

(Disclaimer: I work on Google Cloud) Thanks for your great review! We really appreciate it. I hate to nitpick one point in what you said, but are you sure that S3 is cheaper than Google Cloud Storage? Glacier is definitely cheaper than we are, but they offer ~4 hour object retrieval latency. If you consider only services with real-time retrieval, I think we stack up quite well in both performance and price :).

Hey! Thanks for the response - great example of the kind of employee interaction I was talking about.

Here are the calculators that show S3 is cheaper than GCS - hopefully I didn't type anything in wrong. I used 1 TB of storage, 10 million get operations and 10 million post operations, and 200 GB egress.

S3 monthly: $102.63

GCS monthly: $160.62 (about 56.5% more expensive)

GCS: https://cloud.google.com/products/calculator/#id=cddb4e9a-f2...

S3: https://calculator.s3.amazonaws.com/index.html#r=IAD&s=S3&ke...

Re: What's the Best Cloud? Probably GCP

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post #127

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I believe Container Engine does a little more than you are giving credit for. Its main feature is that it hosts the Kubernetes master - you don't have to worry about setting up etcd, high availability, or anything else in regards to the master or connecting the nodes. Kubernetes also comes with a UI preinstalled on the master, allowing you to launch services and see info regarding pods, replication controllers, and m…

I didn't know about the UI, thanks. But why isn't it built into the web console?

Not sure. Perhaps that was a low priority because it is already running/can be deployed on Kubernetes fairly easily.
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