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GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and employees depart

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Re: GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and employees depart

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Post by nailer »

hitekker wrote: post #38
iza wrote: post #15

> "We’re trying to build a new kind of enterprise company where the playbooks of old won’t always work" By replacing flat meritocracy and remote work with traditional top-down management? > "don't think we'll succeed teaching white, male middle managers empathy and compassion anytime soon, so let's limit their scope of damage" So the technical director and member of the social-impact team is a blatant racist.

This makes me sad. I thought you were being over the top about the racism but then I saw the slides in the article: http://static2.businessinsider.com/image/56b3d2462e526543008... My first reaction is that the language of "us" vs "them", victims vs oppressors, reeks of hatred. Hatred undermines productive conversation, which undermines any attempt at building a good culture. I would have to listen to the whole presen…

Not surprising, they were about to do this a little while ago: https://hacked.com/github-promotes-reverse-racism-sexism/

Re: GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and employees depart

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Post by MatthewMcDonald »

morgante wrote: post #124

Serious question: why can't someone make a good Github replacement that is anywhere near feature parity? I've tried both Bitbucket and GitLab, but their UIs continue to be leagues behind Github. It takes twice as long to do something in them (ex. find and blame a file) than it does with Github. If they could just get the UI right, I'd migrate in a second. Hosting providers should enforce political opinions (beyond de…

When's the last time you looked at GitLab? I've been using it since last February, and the UI improvements have been pretty dramatic.

Re: GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and employees depart

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Post by CryoLogic »

This is just gross. I've spent the last 10 years of my life listening to various minority leaders discriminate against whites with no consequence.

I hope someone stands up for themselves and sues GitHub for this type of behavior. First off, this is very irrational and not based in any facts. Second off, it's blatant racism and sexism.

I will probably migrate my repos to GitLab or even BitBucket shiver. We need to vote with our dollars if that's the only way to get a point across.

Re: GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and employees depart

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Post by audessuscest »

morgante wrote: post #124

Serious question: why can't someone make a good Github replacement that is anywhere near feature parity? I've tried both Bitbucket and GitLab, but their UIs continue to be leagues behind Github. It takes twice as long to do something in them (ex. find and blame a file) than it does with Github. If they could just get the UI right, I'd migrate in a second. Hosting providers should enforce political opinions (beyond de…

You could help gitlab getting better... It's open source.

Re: GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and employees depart

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Post by s986s »

In defense of github, they can create whatever culture they desire. Same with npm and every other company out there. If they succeed, they will be seen as a company who took ethics and equality very seriously. If they don't theyll be seen as racists and confused leftists.

They are making a big risk with no obvious gain (outside of hypothetical culture and numbers). But this is their risk to make. If it does well they will be considered heroes.

Re: GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and employees depart

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Post by chinathrow »

moonlighter wrote: post #117
chinathrow wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can easily make your bitbucket projects public and show them off. No need to be conformed into using a given service.

While I fully agree, there's somewhat of a chicken-n-egg problem here though, because part of the profile shows contributions to other projects/repos, and that's more of a github thing, partly because their profile is designed differently to focus on that, and partly because there are just many more popular repos on github to begin with, so to contribute to those, an Atlasssian bitbucket profile doesn't help much, IF…

I was refering to OPs use case where he mentioned the usage of private repos. Such commits won't show up in a Github profile either...

Re: GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and employees depart

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Post by fuck__dang »

jcoffland wrote: post #127
fuck__dang wrote: post #69

Well, I migrated to Bitbucket just now. I agree with a few of these points and maybe that's barbaric, but what is worse imo is the approach that GitHub has to this. I mean, when you know you are at the forefront of social software development, you need to hold yourselves at a higher standard than this. Millions (!) of people depend on you for some kind of baseline, and this divisiveness and shallowness in protocol re…

If you migrated to BitBucket just now then you must not have that much code on GitHub.

Yeah, I don't really give most of my work away. Only what I want to contribute openly is/was on there.

Re: GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and employees depart

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Post by MatthewMcDonald »

sehr wrote: post #123
fuck__dang wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mainly use(d) GitHub to have projects to show to potential employers. What could you recommend that would present well?

A personal gitlab instance is always an option, it's 40$ a year though.

You can host it for free on gitlab.com

Re: GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and employees depart

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Post by yoodenvranx »

cjcole wrote: post #78
iza wrote: post #15

> "We’re trying to build a new kind of enterprise company where the playbooks of old won’t always work" By replacing flat meritocracy and remote work with traditional top-down management? > "don't think we'll succeed teaching white, male middle managers empathy and compassion anytime soon, so let's limit their scope of damage" So the technical director and member of the social-impact team is a blatant racist.

That categorization ("blatant racist") will sadly tend to produce an endless argument over who can and can't be racist. That's fruitless. More accurately, that statement is both anti-white and misandrist, almost by definition, by equating white plus male with damage.

> an endless argument over who can and can't be racist

It blows my mind that some people really believe that only white people can be racist. It's like they completely redefined the meaning of the word "racist".

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