Brave: Brendan Eich's clean-ads browser startup

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Jan 20, 2016, 4:49 PM UTC

coldpie wrote: post #67

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Diversity, I think, is really important. Diversity of thought as well as all the other kinds of diversity. It's important to be able to work with people who come from different backgrounds, who have different beliefs. I see this on both sides (I see it more often on the left, but that's just because my filter bubble is a somewhat leftish one.. when I step out of that bubble, I see plenty examples of people on the rig…

It's perfectly consistent. Enforcing one's religious views through threats of violence[1] is not the kind of diversity that the left wants. [1] This is what it means to pass and enforce a law.

Post by jordigh » Wed, Jan 20, 2016, 4:50 PM UTC

smacktoward wrote: post #123

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Right. Sell premium movie ticket prices that do not have ads (although I like previews, those can stay). Sell me a subscription to duckduckgo, payable in bitcoins or similar. Paywall every newspaper website. These are far more honest approaches in my view.

> Paywall every newspaper website. Nearly every newspaper website is already paywalled, and every time someone posts a story from those sites to HN all the comments are people complaining about the paywalls. HN even added a special little link to let people skip around them, because why would we want to encourage people to pay for quality work they appreciate?

Post by rockdoe » Wed, Jan 20, 2016, 4:50 PM UTC

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I agree with you. An ad may make me aware of a product of which I had not previously been but it's not going to induce me to buy something in which I had no previous interest. If I'm thinking of Widget Class X Brand A, an ad might make me aware of Brand B and I may eventually purchase the Brand B but I was going to purchase Widget Class X anyway. If I had no interest in Widget Class Z, it doesn't matter how many ads…

What if the ad makes you aware of a "problem" that you didn't know you had that they have a product that can address. Think for example an ad reinforces the underlying fear that you are not social enough because you enjoy programming by yourself. It explains that a pill to help "anxiety" is what you need to be healthy or maybe a class to help you become better spoken will change your life for the better. Many people…

Post by stonogo » Wed, Jan 20, 2016, 4:51 PM UTC

tamana wrote: post #131

jordigh wrote: post #70

I will repeat this one more time, because Eich seems to be missing the point.[1] I don't adblock for privacy, security, or speed. Those are just nice-side effects. I adblock because I do not want to be manipulated into buying things I do not need. I wonder what would happen if, as a society, we said, "enough, no more ads". Would it really be the capitalist apocalypse that the ad industry is trying to make us believe…

Eich isn't missing the point; he is being practical and not catering to your freeloading and obscure politics.

Post by wrsh07 » Wed, Jan 20, 2016, 4:51 PM UTC

jordigh wrote: post #70

I will repeat this one more time, because Eich seems to be missing the point.[1] I don't adblock for privacy, security, or speed. Those are just nice-side effects. I adblock because I do not want to be manipulated into buying things I do not need. I wonder what would happen if, as a society, we said, "enough, no more ads". Would it really be the capitalist apocalypse that the ad industry is trying to make us believe…