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Re: RemixOS for PC released

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Post by digi_owl »

david-given wrote: post #129
digi_owl wrote: post #82

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Seems that Android may be heading back towards Honeycomb, given that the 6.0.1 release put the buttons in the screen corners (back and home bottom left, switcher bottom right). Never mind that 5.0 or something put in a notification shade that was more useful on larger screens. The biggest problem with Android right now is perhaps the release cadence, and that Google sticks to it even if it means shipping half baked f…

For my purposes, the current biggest problem with Android is that it's diverging more and more from desktop Linux; the security model is now sufficiently different that a Debian userland basically won't run. (selinux errors when doing anything with apt.) I used pchroot for a while, which was magical --- it fakes a superuser chroot in a normal user account --- but there's something about recent Androids it doesn't lik…

Theodore Ts'o praised GNURoot the other day.

https://plus.google.com/+TheodoreTso/posts/chfKCGTSz3m

Re: RemixOS for PC released

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Post by david-given »

digi_owl wrote: post #131
david-given wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For my purposes, the current biggest problem with Android is that it's diverging more and more from desktop Linux; the security model is now sufficiently different that a Debian userland basically won't run. (selinux errors when doing anything with apt.) I used pchroot for a while, which was magical --- it fakes a superuser chroot in a normal user account --- but there's something about recent Androids it doesn't lik…

Theodore Ts'o praised GNURoot the other day. https://plus.google.com/+TheodoreTso/posts/chfKCGTSz3m

GNURoot is based on pchroot. I spent some time trying to make it work.

Re: RemixOS for PC released

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Post by niutech »

dizzyviolet wrote: post #85

Just booted it. The EULA is frightening to say the least. 1. "You agree that you irrevocably waive any and all ownership, legal and moral rights to your user content." 2. You're also not allowed to oppose "the basic principles determined in the Constitution of the People's Republic of China", harm it's "national honor and interests", or undermine it's "national religious policy, promoting cults and superstitions". 3.…

I would not be surprised if RemixOS had a spyware/keylogger/backdoor installed. Do not trust it unless they open source the whole OS.

Re: RemixOS for PC released

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Post by matt_morgan »

petecox wrote: post #126
dharma1 wrote: post #27

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It's really up to app developers to make sure their apps work ok (provide fallbacks if gesture heavy) for mouse. I think we are in a period where Android is just starting to get used with mouse so I'd expect it to take a bit of time for things get in shape for mouse users. Some apps work better than others

Mouse support in the OS has been there a while, a friend had one of the early Asus Transformers some 4 years ago with a trackpad.

I can use the mouse on my android box ... the issue is that the things you have to click don't make sense with a mouse. E.g., there'll be two buttons, one on each side of the screen. Easy to hit with two thumbs, impossible to hit with a mouse.

Re: RemixOS for PC released

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Post by niutech »

mankash666 wrote: post #7
castell wrote: post #5

RemixOS uses GPLv2 code (Linux, etc) and other open source licenses. They might got away with proprietary devices, their official response on their old (closed) forum was telling. But now they will have to provide it. The idea of adding a several improvements to Android for desktop usage (improved right mouse click) is good, but why not keep it open source? Also I don't see a real business model, as Google is already…

Because they want to profit from it. BTW - the kernel layer is GPL-ed and is already available in source form with the Ansroid x86 project. The Android layer is Apache licensed and they are't required to open source it, or using your own misleading verbiage, they can "get away with it".

How will they profit from giving away their OS for free? Maybe by gathering their users' data, given their EULA?

Re: RemixOS for PC released

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Post by dizzyviolet »

aagha wrote: post #120
dizzyviolet wrote: post #85

Just booted it. The EULA is frightening to say the least. 1. "You agree that you irrevocably waive any and all ownership, legal and moral rights to your user content." 2. You're also not allowed to oppose "the basic principles determined in the Constitution of the People's Republic of China", harm it's "national honor and interests", or undermine it's "national religious policy, promoting cults and superstitions". 3.…

Interested in getting off Win 10 because of the legal issues or because you don't like the UX?

I love most of the interface. There's still a few bugs that haven't been addressed, but it's 95% solidly done.

The telemetry capture is a huge issue for me and also no longer releasing the contents of updates. I've done what I can to limit or minimize how much information is collected, but I shouldn't have to do that.

When Microsoft released their metrics on Windows 10 usage (for example, how many times their Photos app had been used), people should've been absolutely livid. Who knows what else is captured besides the process list?

It's way too black box for me.

Re: RemixOS for PC released

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Post by mankash666 »

niutech wrote: post #135
mankash666 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because they want to profit from it. BTW - the kernel layer is GPL-ed and is already available in source form with the Ansroid x86 project. The Android layer is Apache licensed and they are't required to open source it, or using your own misleading verbiage, they can "get away with it".

How will they profit from giving away their OS for free? Maybe by gathering their users' data, given their EULA?

I don't know what their exact business plan is. Just like Twitter STILL doesn't have a real business plan.
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