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Isn't British inoffensive to Scots? Odd he decided to bundle an entire nation with whiskey :P

I think people in the UK who refer to themselves as "British" are actually in the minority - most people I know would say they are English, Scottish etc.

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The US has been anti-immigrant for pretty much it's entire history. Whether you were Irish, Polish, Chinese, Catholic, Mexican, Jewish, Muslim, whatever - at some point, a vocal group of Americans didn't want you to come here. But people came anyway. And they made it work. I can't think of any other country on Earth that is as diverse as the US.

There's two examples of immigrants that came here without strong opposition. The initial immigrants from Europe (which didn't work out so well for the indigenous population) and African slaves (which didn't work out so well for the population entering the country). It's always seemed to me that part of the American culture is a determination that comes partly from the mentality of immigrating despite the objections o…

That's an interesting perspective. "Natural selection" for future citizens.

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>err... Scotch Wouldn't recommend calling us Scots "Scotch". We're not whisky ;)

Isn't British inoffensive to Scots? Odd he decided to bundle an entire nation with whiskey :P

It's inoffensive but can be taken hesitantly as a lot of people seem to mistakenly think it's synonymous with "English".

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As an Indian, I doubt I'll qualify for work in these companies. The problem for non-EU, non-US devs wishing to work remotely [1] is that most companies can't legally employ you or aren't willing to jump through bureaucratic hoops just to employ you. I'd subscribed to a remote-only jobs board and the issue was that either I didn't qualify for work due to my residency, or the company never really responded. I would say…

Sorry, but what part of the world isn't anti-immigrant? In my experience, the East, esp. India, China, Japan, the Arab world are extraordinarily more anti-immigrant with more entrenched race-based outlooks than the US. How is there no cognitive dissonance being from an incredibly racist society yet scoffing at the US for not opening the doors to immigrant workers more? It's not the US - it's the world we live in, and the US is not close to the worst.

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Firstly I don't think most of the EU or US companies "have to import a workforce." We have plenty of skilled workers. You are very delusional. Bureaucracy is everywhere, probably one of the worst bureaucracies I have witnessed was in India. I would like to go live and work in Japan but guess what? I can't and I don't feel entitled that I should be able to. As far as your comment about "we wouldn't have to transplant…

If what you say is true, why do do many EU and US tech companies go through the effort of finding, interviewing and relocating foreign workers? Just for kicks? It looks to me that you got upset by the parent's unrestrained comment and pushed back in the same spirit.

I don't blame him to be honest. My comment was indeed unrestrained but not untrue.

P.S. I'd like to get in touch with you if possible.

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I think a lot of these job postings would have a lot more success if they showed salary ranges, in fact that just applies to all job postings. Why apply for EU remote working (if living in the EU) when you can remote work for a US based company? The timezone is off but programmers should be able to work autonomously and independently.

Imagine yourself working for a company and coming across one of its job postings for a position similar to yours. If posted salary is lower than yours, then you might be overpaid (meaning that you might be on your way out). If it's higher, then you'll feel like you are underpaid. Either way this does no good neither to you or the company. Hence no salaries in job postings.

This logic only applies if the company is trying to take advantage of their employees. Ultimately, it always blows up anyway because employees talk to one another.

From the perspective of a company who is not trying to exploit anybody, having open salaries (or at the very least, open initial salary ranges) benefits everybody: neither companies nor candidates waste time.

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I am a developer living in Canada (emigrated from India a long time ago) and I have heard of and seen many outsourcing horror stories. So I wouldn't say most Indians adhere to "industry standards" in code-quality, etc. They are just in it to make money and many times do a very shitty job. Also, communicating with them isn't very easy. Most Indians think they speak fluent English, but I would say in my experience it's…

The problem is with "outsourcing" in the first place; the incentives are totally different. I'd like to hear from Western companies who've hired remote workers in India... I used to work in for a non-profit that is based in the U.S. but has its dev team in Poland. I think it is an open-ended outsourcing contract that's still going on years after it was started, i.e. they are pretty much employees. When we've had prob…

Fab.com had outsourced it's entire engineering to a company in Pune. They did eventually acquire the company itself.

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Not posting salaries always baffles me. I mean, I understand the negotiating advantage. Maybe also wanting to keep salary information quite within the company. But, surely, this is a relevant piece of information for the person deciding to apply. I'm surprised jobs sites don't enforce it. Only jobs with salary information are allowed.

I've worked my entire career in Germany, Austria & Israel and not once did I see a job ad advertise salary. This might be location dependent?

Same in Belgium, except for public sector jobs.

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correct me if I am wrong, but if I understood correctly: - your parents are non-swiss and non-european, but came here, got you citizenship and adter growing up here you moved to US for university and stayed away - is that right? You shouldn't be surprised what they asked from you - relocation. There are specific laws who companies can employ here, and noone is going to break the law just because you would like to set…

The Swiss example I gave was for staying in Switzerland. I couldn't get a decently paying job in Switzerland as a European (SEE), Swiss citizen, living in Switzerland. At that point I wasn't discussing remote jobs at all. I kid you now, at one point one of the HR people told me jokingly in an interview "I thought you people do nly do Football" WTF?? The problem is that Swiss companies certainly hire you if you have a…

> I thought you people do nly do Football

That got a chuckle out of me. Gotta blame Shaqiri, Xhaka, etc for being so good :)

Re: Europe Remotely – EU-friendly remote dev jobs

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I think a lot of these job postings would have a lot more success if they showed salary ranges, in fact that just applies to all job postings. Why apply for EU remote working (if living in the EU) when you can remote work for a US based company? The timezone is off but programmers should be able to work autonomously and independently.

Especially considering the huge disconnect between what EU and US employers consider reasonable. I see [salary missing] and read "probably pays EU35,000 for a Senior Dev." If you are willing to hire from the EU talent pool, and are happy to pay US rates to do so, that is something you should shout from the rooftops. It will get you the cream of the crop. And I'd be willing to bet there is some very good cream here.

Not listing salary just wastes people's time and I've never liked the practice. You either have to go through the process just to find out it wasn't worth it or just not bother. Every company must have a budget in mind, they just want to spend as little as possible.

For a recent free community project that I've launched [0] one of the unique selling points (along with no recruiters and doing good) is that the salary is always stated. All of the employers that have used the service have been happy to provide at least a salary range, even if it isn't shown on the job ad they have on their website.

[0] https://cleanwebjobs.com

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