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"Instead of being tried for war crimes, the researchers involved in Unit 731 were given immunity by the U.S. in exchange for their data on human experimentation." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731 A bit off topic but perhaps interesting to some.

Not just Unit 731, but a lot of America's rocketry experience was imported wholesale from Nazi Germany. We are talking 1500 scientists, technicians and engineers ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip ) including Wernher Von Braun, the designer of the V2. Indeed , Von Braun had been advocating space flight since the very beginning- all the evidence suggests that his tryst with the Nazi weapons program, w…

Unlike Unit 731, the scientists in Operation Paperclip were just that: scientists. Their complicitness in the war, while definitely non-zero, was markedly less.*

Unit 731's doctors were more akin to Mengele: personally hacking off living humans' half-frozen arms to see how they reacted in the cold, experiments with gangrene, etc...

Every single concentration camp "doctor" was deemed a war criminal. We didn't import them as a war bounty. Too bad we never did the same for Japan.

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* The only two exceptions seem to be Kurt Blome and Hubertus Strughold, both brought over in Paperclip, who probably perpetrated some nasty shit but were "tried" and given a pass.

Re: Why Japanese leaders attacked Pearl Harbor

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An absolute disgrace that so many monstrously evil war criminals were let off after the war. But the US is currently shipping weapons and money to brutal dictators in several countries in a horrible display of RealPolitik, so not much has changed.

Well, what's the alternative? "Yeah, these guys have some impressive technology and ideas that can revolutionize our world. But they killed a lot of people, so we're gonna just kill them" Very rarely those who take the absolute high road win...

"Kill them and take their lab-books" doesn't work?

Re: Why Japanese leaders attacked Pearl Harbor

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not just Unit 731, but a lot of America's rocketry experience was imported wholesale from Nazi Germany. We are talking 1500 scientists, technicians and engineers ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip ) including Wernher Von Braun, the designer of the V2. Indeed , Von Braun had been advocating space flight since the very beginning- all the evidence suggests that his tryst with the Nazi weapons program, w…

Unlike Unit 731, the scientists in Operation Paperclip were just that: scientists . Their complicitness in the war, while definitely non-zero, was markedly less.* Unit 731's doctors were more akin to Mengele: personally hacking off living humans' half-frozen arms to see how they reacted in the cold, experiments with gangrene, etc... Every single concentration camp "doctor" was deemed a war criminal. We didn't import…

Definitely they were not as culpable as the guys in unit 731 (Hell even Hitler was probably less sick than those guys).

But their involvement (they used slave labour with people possibly tortured or worked to death) was strong enough for some of them (especially higher ups) to be put to trial.

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