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WhatsApp is blocking Telegram links

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Re: WhatsApp is blocking Telegram links

#131
post #109

WhatsApp is not linkifying Telegram URLs, but Telegram is not even sending messages that are shared from WhatsApp. Telegram is open source, so you can see for yourself here. https://github.com/DrKLO/Telegram/blob/74def22213846b1f90a26... On line 666: if (sendingText.contains("WhatsApp")) { //who needs this sent from ...? sendingText = null; }

The commit that introduced this:

https://github.com/DrKLO/Telegram/commit/a93d2994842ef694442...

> Showing 208 changed files with 5,479 additions and 1,841 deletions.

It looks like they squash all their commits and just push one big diff for each update. This isn't really what I've expect from a product that advertises itself as open source security software.

Re: WhatsApp is blocking Telegram links

#132
post #131
post #109

WhatsApp is not linkifying Telegram URLs, but Telegram is not even sending messages that are shared from WhatsApp. Telegram is open source, so you can see for yourself here. https://github.com/DrKLO/Telegram/blob/74def22213846b1f90a26... On line 666: if (sendingText.contains("WhatsApp")) { //who needs this sent from ...? sendingText = null; }

The commit that introduced this: https://github.com/DrKLO/Telegram/commit/a93d2994842ef694442... > Showing 208 changed files with 5,479 additions and 1,841 deletions. It looks like they squash all their commits and just push one big diff for each update. This isn't really what I've expect from a product that advertises itself as open source security software.

As far as I know, Telegram does not have an official repo. These seem to be updates taken from Telegram's open source page and uploaded to GitHub. You can find the official source code files here:

https://telegram.org/apps

Re: WhatsApp is blocking Telegram links

#133
post #109

WhatsApp is not linkifying Telegram URLs, but Telegram is not even sending messages that are shared from WhatsApp. Telegram is open source, so you can see for yourself here. https://github.com/DrKLO/Telegram/blob/74def22213846b1f90a26... On line 666: if (sendingText.contains("WhatsApp")) { //who needs this sent from ...? sendingText = null; }

I guess there is nothing scary about that, but the code is such a fucking spaghetti it's hard be sure. Not to offend the authors though, I bet they were under pressure writing the client.

Re: WhatsApp is blocking Telegram links

#134
post #71

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I want something to replace Hangouts, WhatsApp and Messenger and Telegram fits the bill while it looks to me like Signal doesn't. My Telegram account can be synced on multiple PCs and devices, while Signal seems to be phone only.

Maybe for a synching feature it would be necessary to compromise on security of the data. The data is asymmetrically encrypted - so you'd have to synch it yourself by sending the data encrypted with you second phones key or you'd have to copy the private key itself. But I guess it would be possible. Though I don't miss this feature anyway.

iMessage already does this without leaking private keys by associating users with many public keys (per-device) instead of just one.

Re: WhatsApp is blocking Telegram links

#135
post #109

WhatsApp is not linkifying Telegram URLs, but Telegram is not even sending messages that are shared from WhatsApp. Telegram is open source, so you can see for yourself here. https://github.com/DrKLO/Telegram/blob/74def22213846b1f90a26... On line 666: if (sendingText.contains("WhatsApp")) { //who needs this sent from ...? sendingText = null; }

hmm... weird. I'm running the latest version of telegram on my android phone, no problems at all to send messages containing "whatsapp". i will look out for that in upcoming updates of telegram android.

Could you report what happens when you send exactly "WhatsApp"?

Re: WhatsApp is blocking Telegram links

#136
post #131

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The commit that introduced this: https://github.com/DrKLO/Telegram/commit/a93d2994842ef694442... > Showing 208 changed files with 5,479 additions and 1,841 deletions. It looks like they squash all their commits and just push one big diff for each update. This isn't really what I've expect from a product that advertises itself as open source security software.

As far as I know, Telegram does not have an official repo. These seem to be updates taken from Telegram's open source page and uploaded to GitHub. You can find the official source code files here: https://telegram.org/apps

The page you've linked links to https://github.com/DrKLO/Telegram for the android client.

Re: WhatsApp is blocking Telegram links

#137
post #55

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This is IMO one of the greatest dangers of leaving those huge corporations like Facebook, Google, Amazon etc. unchecked - they're starting to attack competition by leveraging their primary products (Amazon blocking Chromecasts, Facebook censoring links and pages about their lawsuits are two latest cases) and are working deliberately against interests of greater public (and capitalism itself if we can stretch that :)…

It is not the anti-monopolistic authorities (who are part of the system, anyway), but WE_THE_PEOPLE who need to do something, so that competition is assured. WE need to keep switching services and not let one service rule everything. Be it messengers, social networking apps, eCommerce stores, ERP software, anything - If we choose one organization to rule them all, it won't be very long before they start showing the t…

Yeah, that's not going to happen. The majority of "We the people" is made up of those who take the path of least resistance.

Facebook, by doing things like this, will only hurt themselves. We've been down this road before with Microsoft. It is anti-trust, and will get them in a lot of trouble.

Re: WhatsApp is blocking Telegram links

#138

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We have many like Google plus, twitter, linkedin, reddit and even hacker news (catering to a specific niche). Problem here is that too many people whom we may call "less tech savvy" won't leave FB. So, in order to stay "compatible" with them, we need to keep our FB accounts active!

- Google plus: that would be kind of pointless, wouldn't it? - LinkedIn: The worst of the worst ... :D - HN / Reddit / Twitter: How do you share pictures privately with friends? (to name one necessary feature)

You could have a private subreddit I guess? Still super clumsy compared to FB.

Further, HN/Reddit/Twitter etc. each only have a subset of my friends. ALL of my friends are on FB.

Re: WhatsApp is blocking Telegram links

#139
post #75

Playing devil's advocate: WhatsApp is a $22B investment. It makes sense to try to prevent it from being canabalized from the inside. We've seen something like this before, when AIM allowed MSN Messenger to interoperate. I know this is a little different, but that was still how AIM lost. Here is a fantastic war story from one of the MSN engineers on the battle to subvert AIM [1]. [1] https://nplusonemag.com/issue-19/e…

From my experience, AIM lost because it was the cool thing to do in high school before everyone had cell phones. Once texting/BBM was a thing, AIM became completely obsolete. I don't think I know anyone who ever used MSN Messenger.

In the Netherlands, there was almost nobody who didn't use MSN Messenger.

Re: WhatsApp is blocking Telegram links

#140

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We need a competitor to FB ... sadly options like Diaspora are very problematic b/c you need to either run a server or trust a private person with it.

This is a great comment, because it leads in right to the heart of the problem. Why is running a server so hard? This is actually really weird -- the cloud should mean that you can set up a server with a single click. Of course, a Linux VPS needs a fair amount of love (fiddling with settings, updating, and so on). But there are other ways: https://sandstorm.io/

Sandstorm is interesting, but fundamentally the dichotomy is "leave the running to someone else" vs. "spend significant time and effort acquiring the skills to make your own administrative decisions".

If you're running on someone else's platform and automatically accepting updates, are you really "administering" it yourself?

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