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Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

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Re: Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

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Post by miclip »

asmithmd1 wrote: post #125
aurelius12 wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was really curious about that, as I live in southern Marin and have wanted to go up that road before. Are you sure it's a public road though? I found this: http://sausalito.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=2&clip_... On page 2, there's a line that says, "Wolfback Ridge Road is a private road maintained by the Wolfback Ridge Association, a neighborhood homeowner’s association (see Exhibit R for Association inform…

IANAL but it looks like the story is more complicated then a simple public or private. This tax plot seems to show the road past the gate to the sharp bend IS public, but after the sharp bend their is no road easement recorded, the property lines go right to the middle of the road making it like a private shared driveway: http://www.marinmap.org/Planner/queryRM.aspx?PID=064-276-22 And there is the additional complica…

I believe the whole road is maintained by the city. If it's a private road the residents should pay for it.

At the top of the hill before the bend there is adequate space to turn around if that is where the gate should be.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Wolfback+Ridge+Rd,+Sausali...

The road at the top is also a loop.

Re: Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

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Post by beachstartup »

miclip wrote: post #60

Similar issue in Sausalito above the Bridge. Wolfback Ridge Rd is a publicly maintained road yet they have a gate and sign that says otherwise. It is strictly enforced by Sausalito Police on behalf of residents. There's some great short hikes up there that offer excellent views of the Golden Gate Bridge and headlands. Even google didn't dare go up there: https://www.google.com/maps/@37.8512481,-122.4911711,3a,75y,...…

same thing happens at the beaches in malibu (all beaches are public land in california).

Re: Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

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Post by ianstallings »

JustSomeNobody wrote: post #51
donatj wrote: post #43

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You couldn't just ask them to move if/when you did actually have to get out? People don't spend usually more than a few minutes at yard sales and it sounds to me like you were just being unreasonable. If you were so worried you might need to leave at an absolute moments notice (doctor on call or something?) why not just park in the street yourself?

Seriously? Look, it is plain rude to park directly in front of someone's drive. There's no two ways about that. I should not have to be go and park my car somewhere else because people can't be bothered to not be rude. I have plenty of property in front of my house that they could have parked (it's 25 extra feet they would have had to walk). That's what plenty of other people were doing. There's plenty of open space…

So you sit there waiting for someone to be rude so you can pounce on them? I'm sorry but that's petty. Don't you have anything better to do?

And that's not going to make for good neighbors. Now they know you're that guy that acts like a unreasonable person.

Re: Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

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Post by asmithmd1 »

miclip wrote: post #60

Similar issue in Sausalito above the Bridge. Wolfback Ridge Rd is a publicly maintained road yet they have a gate and sign that says otherwise. It is strictly enforced by Sausalito Police on behalf of residents. There's some great short hikes up there that offer excellent views of the Golden Gate Bridge and headlands. Even google didn't dare go up there: https://www.google.com/maps/@37.8512481,-122.4911711,3a,75y,...…

The Bing driver was more bold:

https://www.bing.com/mapspreview/?&cp=37.848938~-122.49187&l...

What an awesome view

Re: Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

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Post by eru »

ccvannorman wrote: post #111
miclip wrote: post #90

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When I lived there it irritated me a great deal, not that I minded hiking up the hill but the residents are very aggressive. They'll stop you if you even walking along the road, that kind of thing gets me worked up. I thought about confronting the issue but figured I don't need to waste my time or money on such endeavors.

Welp, I know what I'm doing this weekend. This sounds like fun.

For your own sake, I hope you are white. Otherwise, good luck confronting the police!

Re: Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

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Post by arethuza »

logfromblammo wrote: post #128
arethuza wrote: post #121

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Actually, as far as I can tell one part of the planning agreement was for the developers to fund a ranger to help monitor the area - probably one of this lot: https://www.facebook.com/East-Lothian-Countryside-Ranger-Ser...

The captions on these photos tell a bit more of the story: http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/35182 http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1247442 http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/102054 There's also a wiki entry ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archerfield_Estate_and_Links ). So on further examination, It looks increasingly like this is an American-style gated community for the wealthy, and that the new home-owners probably…

Pretty sure that court case is for a different fence - the one in the Geograph pics is new and completely isolates the Archerfield estate from the sea. Even when the estate/hotel has properties right on the coast there is this fence (without a single gate) between them and the coast - along which there is a public path from which you can get a good view of the fence....

NB It's not really a gated community in that access to it from the landward side is easy - you just walk or drive in.

Re: Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

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Post by seangrant »

markbnj wrote: post #110
miclip wrote: post #87

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It's a sticker that gets put on your window. They're very hard to remove. http://www.myparkingpermit.com/Parking-Violation-Stickers/No...

>> Adhere the label to the side window or windshield. Once stuck onto a window, the warning requires scrapping or a razor blade to remove. Vandalism, basically.

Government funded stickerbombing for driving on a public(?) road.

Re: Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

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Post by knodi123 »

chdir wrote: post #62

Reminds me of lombard street [1]. It can be pretty tiring for the residents to see a constant barrage of tourists, stopping their vehicles on the street to take pictures. Imagine leaving or returning home at "peak tourist hours", how difficult it would be to drive your car near your home. I guess the burden is on a home owner to figure out what they are walking into when they buy a house near a popular tourist attrac…

During one portion of the year, my neighborhood has small hordes of visitors due to a large wildflower field across the street. Mostly I find it charming, and my worst confrontation involved telling a guy "Hey, please don't park on my lawn", and him replying "oh, sorry, I'll move immediately".

I don't see why seeing people taking pictures of a landmark in your neighborhood should be tiring.

Re: Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

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Post by lips »

And they can't rent bikes, create a locally-staffed concession area, sell tchotkes, and pull some $$$ out of the tourists? Tourists gonna tourist, and might as well beat them at their own game, and put the money back into trail infrastructure, and then take the cream off the top for local services.

Re: Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

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Post by abruzzi »

JackFr wrote: post #108
noxToken wrote: post #67

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IANAL, nor am I directly citing anything. However, I believe that you cannot willfully setup something with intent to cause damage or harm to people or property that isn't your own. I believe it's akin to drenching your sandwich with Dave's Insanity Sauce to catch the co-worker who has been stealing your lunch. If your enjoy eating your hot sauce with a side of sandwich, that's fine. It's the intent of how you're usi…

IANAL either, but I think the prohibition is on items that threatan life and saftely rather than trespassers property. From Wikipedia: > Mantraps that use deadly force are illegal in the United States, and there have been notable tort law cases where the trespasser has successfully sued the property owner for damages caused by the mantrap. There is also the possibility that such traps could endanger emergency service…

Unless someone walks across the lawn, steps on a spike, and develops tetanus. The point is it might be legal but you run the risk that it could blow back pretty badly.
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