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Five Open-Source Slack Alternatives

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Re: Five Open-Source Slack Alternatives

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Why is this even an issue? Slack has nailed team chat. Slack is easy to use, they have a free plan. If you want the premium features, their pricing is very affordable. Can we stop re-inventing the wheel, just because engineers don't want to pay for software. This is the fundamental difference between founders+engineer/engineer.

I don't think price is most people's problems. I think usually it's just 1. they don't want to depend on a third party's existence. If Slack Inc. goes under or gets sold to eBay, the team won't have Slack anymore, and 2. they want privacy. They don't want conversations being watched or sold, especially to competitors. I'm pretty sure that's all it is. Someone correct me if I'm wrong though please.

Well, it's interesting that anyone would be concerned about (1) meanwhile probably 99% of open source projects use e.g. github, bitbucket, gmail, etc...

If it's an open source project then shouldn't everything be out in the open anyways? If that's not the case then it implies it's a private project in which case there should be a budget...

Maybe Im wrong though?

Re: Five Open-Source Slack Alternatives

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Again, you can use HipChat and get something closer to the best of both worlds; drag-and-drop file sharing with a standard (well… more standard-ish) OS X interface. It's great for you that look-and-feel isn't so important to you, but it is to a lot of people, and that includes myself. At any rate, on Slack, I once drag-and-dropped a text file with the output of a shell script that a colleague wanted to see. He starte…

I'm sure Slack isn't the best available tool; I just know it's better than IRC.

For every kind of team sysops work I've ever done, I would say that Slack is indeed the best available tool.

Not every organization needs this kind of workflow though, so the best available tool depends on what your organization has to integrate. (Disclosure: I've never tried HipChat.)

Re: Five Open-Source Slack Alternatives

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I was recently at a small development studio that closed down. We used slack to communicate and liked it. I set up an alumni team and the whole team joined up to keep in touch and it's still active months later.

Is anyone going to argue that if I'd sent out the irc channel that anyone would have tried to connect?

Re: Five Open-Source Slack Alternatives

#135

I wish that someone would build an easy-to-use layer on top of an open protocol like IRC or XMPP. The tool could manage setup, configuration, archiving, and notifications. Instead of building a walled garden that is merely accessible via an open protocol, it would be more interesting to build a thin layer on top of an XMPP server that could even be removed or replaced later, if desired.

I got pointed to irccloud.com the last time I asked about that.

Re: Five Open-Source Slack Alternatives

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Can someone explain the attraction that nerds have for Slack/Hipchat over a well-tended IRC server?

> Can someone explain the attraction that nerds have for Slack/Hipchat over a well-tended IRC server? 1. Nerds (like me) have to talk to non-nerds. 2. Nerds (unlike me, but not unlike my wife) aren't interested in complex solutions to simple problems. And frankly, who is the "tender" of the "well-tended" IRC server? I don't want to maintain it. My wife and I used slack as the primary means with which we communicate f…

Is the archive permanent or is it going to fall off the end of the earth? It sounds like a great replacement for PushBullet+Hangouts+Email.

Re: Five Open-Source Slack Alternatives

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> Can someone explain the attraction that nerds have for Slack/Hipchat over a well-tended IRC server? 1. Nerds (like me) have to talk to non-nerds. 2. Nerds (unlike me, but not unlike my wife) aren't interested in complex solutions to simple problems. And frankly, who is the "tender" of the "well-tended" IRC server? I don't want to maintain it. My wife and I used slack as the primary means with which we communicate f…

Interesting, because my wife (non-tech, but still nerdy EE) and I communicate a lot via IRC! I've never used Slack, but my assumption is that it's ephemeral messaging at the core. Could you expand on how you archive recipes? I should probably expand that IRC for us is pretty stateful, since we both run our own irssi instances in screen on a VPS.

Ah, we just have a channel called "recipes" which we post links to. Search works pretty well to find them.

Admission: my wife is pregnant, so she really only wants me to make one thing. http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/corn-and-lobste...

Re: Five Open-Source Slack Alternatives

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> Can someone explain the attraction that nerds have for Slack/Hipchat over a well-tended IRC server? 1. Nerds (like me) have to talk to non-nerds. 2. Nerds (unlike me, but not unlike my wife) aren't interested in complex solutions to simple problems. And frankly, who is the "tender" of the "well-tended" IRC server? I don't want to maintain it. My wife and I used slack as the primary means with which we communicate f…

Is the archive permanent or is it going to fall off the end of the earth? It sounds like a great replacement for PushBullet+Hangouts+Email.

For free accounts, I believe only the latest 10k messages are searchable. For $6 pp/month you can fully searchable unlimited messages.

Also Slack gives you $25 in credit for each person you add.

Re: Five Open-Source Slack Alternatives

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"But why does it matter? Bandwidth is super-cheap" If this comment is serious (and I have my doubts), I'm left speechless... Don't even know where to start. I'll just leave it here http://www.theverge.com/2015/10/28/9625062/facebook-2g-tuesd...

> I'm left speechless... Oh please. Without even knowing much about the protocol, I am almost positive that it's bandwidth requirements are well below even a relatively light modern webpage and likely well within 2G range.

It's not about the particulars of this protocol. It's about the statement "bandwidth is super cheap". I would have called it super-oblivious first-world thinking but that statement is absurd anywhere on a mobile connection.

Re: Five Open-Source Slack Alternatives

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post #62

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"But why does it matter? Bandwidth is super-cheap" If this comment is serious (and I have my doubts), I'm left speechless... Don't even know where to start. I'll just leave it here http://www.theverge.com/2015/10/28/9625062/facebook-2g-tuesd...

> I'm left speechless... Oh please. Without even knowing much about the protocol, I am almost positive that it's bandwidth requirements are well below even a relatively light modern webpage and likely well within 2G range.

> "Without even knowing much about the protocol"

> "I am almost positive that it's bandwidth requirements are well below even a relatively light modern webpage and likely well within 2G range."

I'm pretty sure this this is almost certainly the least, or at least within range of, quite likely the least definitive statement I might have ever read (or at least one of the lesser definitive of statements I've read within the past year, or at least the last few months, or so).

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