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OS X El Capitan License: in Plain English

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Re: OS X El Capitan License: in Plain English

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nothing like that appears in the plain text license here. Are you reading it from somewhere else? In any case, almost all warranty disclaimers start with "TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT PERMITTED BY APPLICABLE LAW" which, under consumer laws in most countries, requires the company to provide a product that can work as shown in all its advertising materials.

> In any case, almost all warranty disclaimers start with "TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT PERMITTED BY APPLICABLE LAW" Which is an invalid clause in Germany and probably most other European countries. Any clause that goes beyond the extent permitted by the applicable law is automatically void in Germany. This is due to consumer protection laws. Therefore, most of these EULAs are probably void if it ever comes to law suit...

Is it actually? Because this is basically saying, "these are the conditions. if all or part of these conditions extend beyond the applicable law, then only the part that is within the law is applicable".

Re: OS X El Capitan License: in Plain English

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a question I see pop up every now and then, it was never legal, but I just looked it up again. Unfortunately, no, that's not allowed, your host OS must be an apple supplied OS. See also [1] and here's the excerpt: (iii) to install, use and run up to two (2) additional copies or instances of the Apple Software within virtual operating system environments on each Mac Computer you own or control that is already…

Technically, you can install windows, iTunes, and then an OS X VM. That would seem to comply with the "is already running Apple Software". Or did I miss something?

Yes, you really need to read it in context "The Apple Software" here is a reference to earlier and is meant to be an apple operating system in this case El Capitan, although they extend it a bit.

The quote was shortened by me for brevity.

If you want a bit more context here's the slightly longer version of the quote:

.....you are granted a limited, non-transferable, nonexclusive license:

(i) to download, install, use and run for personal, non-commercial use, one (1) copy of the Apple Software directly on each Apple-branded computer running OS X Yosemite, OS X Mavericks, OS X Mountain Lion, OS X Lion or OS X Snow Leopard (“Mac Computer”) that you own or control;

(ii) If you are a commercial enterprise or educational institution, to download, install, use and run one (1) copy of the Apple Software for use either: (a) by a single individual on each of the Mac Computer(s) that you own or control, or (b) by multiple individuals on a single shared Mac Computer that you own or control. For example, a single employee may use the Apple Software on both the employee’s desktop Mac Computer and laptop Mac Computer, or multiple students may serially use the Apple Software on a single Mac Computer located at a resource center or library; and

(iii) to install, use and run up to two (2) additional copies or instances of the Apple Software within virtual operating system environments on each Mac Computer you own or control that is already running the Apple Software, for purposes of: (a) software development; (b) testing during software development; (c) using OS X Server; or (d) personal, noncommercial use.

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