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New Initiatives for Lyft Drivers

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Re: New Initiatives for Lyft Drivers

#131

Some nice moves from Lyft. Feels like they've really upped their game with this and it will be an incredible case study if they're able to surpass Uber who has a head-start, which almost never happens. Reminds me of the days when alltheweb had just become the popular SE beating AltaVista, Excite and others, and Google stormed in and cleaned up.

Lyft had the headstart (and Sidecar was earlier than Lyft). Uber had their UberBlack program but didn't jump into the ridesharing pool until nearly a year after Lyft did.

Re: New Initiatives for Lyft Drivers

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I like how Lyft is trying to make it easier for more people to drive for them. But, after Lyft's cut, tax and gas the hourly rate was very low. I drove for a couple months and they promised $25 - $35 during peak time, but I netted out to about $10/hr. Now to add on a Hertz rental fee, that is going to get very slim. Obviously this is still a better job for some people then there alternative. Lyft will market to new d…

Curious about your $10/hr figure. What city were you in? How much of the time were you actively driving fare paying rides? In a city like SF, $10/hour is actually less than minimum wage, yet there is no shortage of Uber/Lyft/Etc drivers.

I was driving in SF for two month a couple years ago. Lyft took a 15 or 20% cut right off the top, then I covered taxes, gas, weekly car wash. I also included the time when I ended a shift, but had to get back to my apartment, or had to take a break to fill gas or grab some food in between rides.

After that stretch I drove periodically when I wanted some extra money. It's very flexible on hours.

Re: New Initiatives for Lyft Drivers

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I just spent two weeks in the UK as a tourist. I had a wonderful time. Perhaps it was me? But I used cash much much more than I do in the US. I pulled out my credit card in a pub and got scolded. Perhaps because I was outside the big cities? It might be me but I perceived the culture in smaller town Scotland to be more cash oriented than I am used to in the USA. I personally saw more people pay with cash than I am us…

Small town Scotland, sure, a bit different. But small town Scotland is, by population, a tiny fraction of the UK.

That came dangerously close to being a literal "no true Scotsman" dismissal of the GP's example...

Re: New Initiatives for Lyft Drivers

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> What would prevent you from just giving him some cash out of your physical wallet? Perhaps this is just a difference depending on where you are in the world, but I'm not used to people in first world countries carrying cash.

Really you don't keep £50-100 for small purchases on you what happens if its late at night raining and your card gets eaten by the machine and you need a taxi home? Also if its a crowded pub waiting while you dig you card out and slowly use the one machine your holding every one up.

> Really you don't keep £50-100 for small purchases on you what happens if its late at night raining and your card gets eaten by the machine and you need a taxi home?

No? Why would it get eaten by a machine?

Re: New Initiatives for Lyft Drivers

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Even in the US, I don't know anyone who regularly carries cash anymore. Why would you want the hassle? Or risk it being lost/stolen?

I want it so that I don't have the hassle . You want to buy a bottle of coke from a vending machine? Most of them don't have card readers. You want to tip the valet/bellman/maid? Most of them don't have card readers; even if they do, it's still inconvenient to make them dig it out. Feeling compassionate toward the beggar on the corner? Think he's got a card reader? Want to pay the babysitter? Does she carry a card re…

> You want to buy a bottle of coke from a vending machine? Most of them don't have card readers.

I never have that urge tbh.

> You want to tip the valet/bellman/maid? Most of them don't have card readers; even if they do, it's still inconvenient to make them dig it out.

Yeah, when I'm on vacation I'll run to the bank and get some $5 bills for that sort of thing. Hence "regularly" was the word I used. I'm not on that sort of vacation 51 out of 52 weeks a year.

> Feeling compassionate toward the beggar on the corner? Think he's got a card reader?

I donate directly to large charities that I know provide food, etc. to people. I honestly don't see beggars on street corners [largely because the local police are assholes].

> Want to pay the babysitter? Does she carry a card reader?

Actually yeah. She does.

> Then there's the other side of risk. Ever had your identity stolen? (I have, though not from a dodgy card reader.) And if you think chip and pin is going to make that impossible, I expect that the crooks will find a way.

Yes. If you meant actually identity theft [e.g. social, driver license] so they can masquerade as you...a lack of credit card provides no protection. The insurance companies you use, your employer, your bank, and dozens [if not hundreds] of "big data" companies have this info as well.

If you somehow believe a lack of a credit card will magically secure you against this risk, you are very much mistaken.

Stolen credit cards, honestly, are much less of a problem than stolen cash. I can get the money back from a stolen credit card.

Re: New Initiatives for Lyft Drivers

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Small town Scotland, sure, a bit different. But small town Scotland is, by population, a tiny fraction of the UK.

That came dangerously close to being a literal "no true Scotsman" dismissal of the GP's example...

Haha it was a literal no true Scotsman dismissal. That's funny. That being said, I'd really love to hear the opinion of a smaller town Scots(wo)man who has traveled/lived other places on their opinion of card/cash "culture" vs other first world countries if they are any around here.

The reason I went to the place I went was because the primary purpose of my trip was to visit someone.

Re: New Initiatives for Lyft Drivers

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Why not tip the driver out of your wallet? Tipping through an app allows the employer to pay them even less because "they receive tips", in the end you're tipping the company that hired them. This makes drivers expect to be tipped (even if they did usual or mediocre job) and essentially becomes a hidden fee.

Tipping through the app is much more convenient because I rarely carry cash. And your point is kinda negated by the fact that Lyft usually pays more than Uber.

Lyft currently pays more, because that's probably last thing that keeps them alive. Many drivers work for both, if Lyft would pay same or less then what would keep them there?

As for the negating point, this is not something that happens instantly, but if you want an example then look at restaurants. There's even special minimum wage (currently $2.13) for jobs that receive tips.

Re: New Initiatives for Lyft Drivers

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Tipping through the app is much more convenient because I rarely carry cash. And your point is kinda negated by the fact that Lyft usually pays more than Uber.

Lyft currently pays more, because that's probably last thing that keeps them alive. Many drivers work for both, if Lyft would pay same or less then what would keep them there? As for the negating point, this is not something that happens instantly, but if you want an example then look at restaurants. There's even special minimum wage (currently $2.13) for jobs that receive tips.

Not in California.

Re: New Initiatives for Lyft Drivers

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What is the name of the specific app you have in mind that is 5 Euros less than Uber and has ratings and driver tracking.

There are many existing, one that is supported by the local taxi drivers in my city would be http://www.taxi.eu/en/

Well, now I have to admit confusion. I downloaded it and poked around, and it seems to be put together pretty well and has all the features from Uber. My best guess is that they started in a place where taxis were generally "good enough" already and didn't market it as hard, but it definitely competes well along the dimensions I gave before.
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