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Tesla Model X Launch event, livestream

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Re: Tesla Model X Launch event, livestream

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Looks nice. Is this really an SUV, though? It looks like a sedan.

A lot of SUVs are basically raised sedans. Only the very largest SUVs have fundamental differences from "cars" - Expedition, Escalade, Tahoe, etc. Disclaimer: I work for GM. Side note: no one will get away with building shit after this. And thats a GOOD THING.

No, a lot of SUVs are basically raised estate cars. This is a raised sedan. When Mercedes did the same thing and said the new MLC (which looks identical to a Model X) is an SUV they got laughed at. When Tesla does it it's apparently all-OK.

But really, they couldn't build a "proper" electric SUV, the poor aerodynamics would kill the range of a car which already has ~20% less range than the Model S.

Re: Tesla Model X Launch event, livestream

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Elon Musk is a terrible speaker but it works because he's so genuine.

He's not terrible, just a bit rough. I find his presentations far more appealing than any "perfect" presentation companies like Google, Apple or Facebook make. He also doesn't fluff anything up or over sell anything. He tells the facts in a way people can understand and that's it.

I have watched Google IO, WWDC etc many times. Speaker come and speak fluently about a teeny tiny feature for half an hour.

Elon on the other side is plain and direct. The halts and the roughness actually makes me more attentive because of the change.

Re: Tesla Model X Launch event, livestream

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Caught the tail end of the event. Elon definitely comes across as genuine and a real person. That said, a little practice in the stage presence / showmanship department could certainly help things flow smoother and amp up the excitement a bit; something this brand and its cars deserve!

Everything is overmarketed these days. I prefer things underdone.

And he is actually plowing hard on real value, unlike so many industries. Tesla raises everything up to eleven, leaving the low hanging fruits being background noise. I don't want to win an easy Jobs point, but it feels like the early iPhone era. They bring out new engineering features on a regular basis that are 2x better than the state of the market. I wonder how angry the other manufacturers are now.

Re: Tesla Model X Launch event, livestream

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post #27

Elon Musk is a terrible speaker but it works because he's so genuine.

He's not terrible, just a bit rough. I find his presentations far more appealing than any "perfect" presentation companies like Google, Apple or Facebook make. He also doesn't fluff anything up or over sell anything. He tells the facts in a way people can understand and that's it.

I assume the people at the end were early 'buyers'. The smile on their face worked better than any words to me.

Re: Tesla Model X Launch event, livestream

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The doors opening in that narrow space; crowd went insane. Livestream link: http://livestream.com/accounts/4186560/events/4387735/player

Yes, clever. The dual hinges don't open up on a consistent arc, their action is recalculated each time based on sonar measurement.

This sounds cool, but I'm not sure why they couldn't just design it to always open with the tightest possible arc?

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so who were the VIPs who took possession? I heard that he mentioned "Sergey" as the owner for vin 3. I didnt recognize the others.

Only recognised the last one. It's Steve Jurvetson, from DFJ. He got the one of the first Model S's. Also invested in Tesla.

Did a little digging:

VIN 1: Elon

VIN 2: Steve Jurvetson, board member Tesla/SpaceX (also has Model S VIN#1)

VIN 3: Mark Templeton, President / CEO of Citrix (Owned one of first Roadsters)

VIN 4: Sergey Brin, ..Google, likes pink Teslas (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22AQyWBSWrg)

VIN 5: ??

VIN 6: ??

Re: Tesla Model X Launch event, livestream

#137

The car looks absolutely beautiful. Sadly, as much as I want to go electric, I have no use for it, at $140K for an SUV I expect a lot more than this. I think the falcon doors solve a non-existing problem while parking. I can't remember the last time this was an issue, with or without kids, with or without cargo or bags on the back seat of either an SUV or a minivan. The same is true of the third row seat. We've had b…

The did describe it as a kindof hybrid SUV/MPV/XUV in previous announcements. Its sortof an SUV but then sortof a completely new thing too.

Re: Tesla Model X Launch event, livestream

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So that was the launch, and there's still no price?

They've announced prices for the full loaded expensive models. And they're expensive. The entry level models are coming later. Elon said an X will be about $5000 more than the equivalent S (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/639170376186990592). So if they release a 70D version it will be about $80,000 before incentives are taken off.

Re: Tesla Model X Launch event, livestream

#139

I admire Tesla as a company, but I can't help but wonder why they still have Elon Musk do the entire presentation himself. Sure, he's their superstar, but he comes off as a very underprepared public speaker. I wish they had him do an introduction, and then have a spokesperson do the bulk of the talking. Instead, he's showing off these new and amazing products with nearly no charisma and enthusiasm.

Who is "they"? You think somebody is forcing Musk to do those presentations? Elon Musk is the CEO. He does the presentations himself because that's his decision and that's what he wants.

Re: Tesla Model X Launch event, livestream

#140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, clever. The dual hinges don't open up on a consistent arc, their action is recalculated each time based on sonar measurement.

This sounds cool, but I'm not sure why they couldn't just design it to always open with the tightest possible arc?

Maybe cause it's slower?
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