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Post by rodgerd »

btown wrote: post #56
JohnTHaller wrote: post #2

Wired will be losing ad revenue due to Apple adding ad blocking abilities to mobile Safari. So, Wired moves content to Apple News which has ads that can't be blocked (and Apple conveniently takes a nice juicy cut of).

It's almost certain that Apple's long game is to make this the norm. If there's one surefire way to get people addicted to ad blockers, it's to make them available on mobile devices. Once enough content creators start moving content behind News-walls, then Apple can roll out desktop versions of News. And as people then start asking each other "how do I get ad blocking in my browser as well," Apple's well positioned t…

> It's brilliant

Only in the same sense cable monopolies are brilliant.

Re: “This story is being previewed exclusively on Apple News until Tuesday”

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Post by SmellyGeekBoy »

sidcool wrote: post #66

Dear Wired, if you want us to buy an Apple device to read your article, good luck with that. Losing respect in tech industry is pretty easy. Be safe.

I don't think they have much left to lose, to be fair.

Re: “This story is being previewed exclusively on Apple News until Tuesday”

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Post by xrjn »

raverbashing wrote: post #101
SyneRyder wrote: post #33

This could backfire. Surely this should result in a Google penalty against Wired.com for publishing thin content? https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/2604719?hl=en If Wired wants the article to be exclusive on Apple News, fine, but in that case it should not be on the website. Keep it exclusively on Apple News. There is no content on this page beyond a headline.

So, did anyone try fetching it with an Apple News reader user-agent?

I don't know how Apple News works, but wouldn't they use a custom API to fetch news?

Re: “This story is being previewed exclusively on Apple News until Tuesday”

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Post by icebraining »

jameslk wrote: post #89

This is the wrong direction. What users want are unobtrusive ads and what content creators want is to get paid. Apple and Facebook are trying to take advantage of this by pushing users to their AOL-esque walled gardens. We need a browser standard for built-in unobtrusive ads or payments so content creators can get paid and users don't get stuck with AOL 2.0.

Why do we need a browser standard for built-in unobtrusive ads? We already have a standard to carry ads - it's called HTML. Adding an out-of-band ad carrying system is not only, and in my opinion, an unethical subterfuge, as it won't work against heavy-handed ad-blockers anyway: they'll just evolve to block that too.

Re: “This story is being previewed exclusively on Apple News until Tuesday”

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Post by madeofpalk »

raverbashing wrote: post #101
SyneRyder wrote: post #33

This could backfire. Surely this should result in a Google penalty against Wired.com for publishing thin content? https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/2604719?hl=en If Wired wants the article to be exclusive on Apple News, fine, but in that case it should not be on the website. Keep it exclusively on Apple News. There is no content on this page beyond a headline.

So, did anyone try fetching it with an Apple News reader user-agent?

Most of Apple News articles actually arrive via RSS, but top tier publishers (which Wired certainly is) push articles into Apple News via a private web API.

Re: “This story is being previewed exclusively on Apple News until Tuesday”

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Post by xrjn »

bandicity wrote: post #40
burntwater wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quora permanently lost me several years ago when they suddenly forced me to select five categories of interest before I could continue to the question I was interested in. Forcing me to do something I have no interest in and will never make use of is a good way to alienate me.

Quora requires registration to simply read it. That's at least going to lose them viewers who don't want to bother.

In my experience, blocking cookies and/or using incognito mode works to block off their solicitations. Now if only someone would find a solution for Scribd..

Re: “This story is being previewed exclusively on Apple News until Tuesday”

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Post by cronjobber »

coldtea wrote: post #95
mendelk wrote: post #92

I have a silly question: If the conspiracy theorists are right, the whole ad-blocking on ios is a ploy to get the ad-starved publishers, and thus the masses, off the web-based internet and onto in-app content silos such as Apple News. If they're wildly successful, the only ones left on the traditional internet would be those not producing content for money. Does that mean I'll be able to experience the internet the w…

Eternal September? The internet was still great from that regard (tons of people "not producing content for money"), no big central control, no FB/Google/Twitter/etc, until around the time we got Google. There was AOL of course, but that was mostly mocked by people on the "real" internet. > and while this would certainly be a regression for the society at large Actually, it might be a huge improvement. Technofiles wi…

> The internet was still great ... until around the time we got Google.

Depressingly accurate.

Alas, the probable trajectory is not all-out war on Google, but rather a number of plausible threats followed by a hammering out of market boundaries followed by a tacit non-compete between the players.

Re: “This story is being previewed exclusively on Apple News until Tuesday”

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Post by mootothemax »

coldtea wrote: post #95
mendelk wrote: post #92

I have a silly question: If the conspiracy theorists are right, the whole ad-blocking on ios is a ploy to get the ad-starved publishers, and thus the masses, off the web-based internet and onto in-app content silos such as Apple News. If they're wildly successful, the only ones left on the traditional internet would be those not producing content for money. Does that mean I'll be able to experience the internet the w…

Eternal September? The internet was still great from that regard (tons of people "not producing content for money"), no big central control, no FB/Google/Twitter/etc, until around the time we got Google. There was AOL of course, but that was mostly mocked by people on the "real" internet. > and while this would certainly be a regression for the society at large Actually, it might be a huge improvement. Technofiles wi…

>The internet was still great... until around the time we got Google.

Not that I necessarily agree with your assertion, it's worth emphasizing the reason that Google took off: search just plain sucked before Google came on the scene.

Personally, my only real issue with Google is the decline in precise search result quality since they got rid of the + operator.

Re: “This story is being previewed exclusively on Apple News until Tuesday”

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Post by rndstr »

smsm42 wrote: post #107

Couple of minutes ago I didn't know about Apple News and didn't care about a superstar architect. Now I still don't care about a superstar architect but already hate Apple News and Wired for presenting me with a link to an article I can not read.

I just made a mental note not to click on any wired link in the future.
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