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Re: Stalking Your Friends with Facebook Messenger

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Post by darklajid »

falcolas wrote: post #85
darklajid wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a rather harsh argument and we could (not trying to derail this) proceed and say the same thing about people that use Google products, Twitter, WhatsApp, 'the cloud' etc. - and in the end we'll finally agree with Stallman. I don't have a Facebook account and have to admit that I never truly understood the benefit, the appeal. It seemed full of ads, games, random pictures and without structure - i.e. you might…

> and in the end we'll finally agree with Stallman And that's a bad thing? If your friends get this much information out of messages you're sending them, how much does Facebook have? An individual employee at Facebook? An individual who compromises Facebook's servers? An advertiser who works with Facebook? Agreeing with Stallman is a good way to start taking back control of what information is available out there abo…

Don't try to read too much into that comment of mine. I'm a Linux guy, hate G+, FB, WhatsApp etc. with a passion, subscribe to all things DDG.

The point I was trying to make is that one cannot/should not single out FB as anything special here (top-level comment) and that you probably end up somewhere on the privacy/freedom scale between 'posts restroom visits on social networks and shares the movie of ones wife giving birth' and RMS.

I personally lean towards the latter position. We're in agreement here. I wasn't bashing RMS, I was using him as THE example for someone trying to avoid all this nonsense.

Re: Stalking Your Friends with Facebook Messenger

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Post by bentcorner »

darklajid wrote: post #39
nodata wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or maybe not lie?

That's unrelated. Sharing _exact_ locations by default without realizing it is creepy/intimidating. The content of the message/the incident itself is just an anecdote that explains how the GP noticed this idiotic behavior of FB's chat. Commenting on the anecdote derails the thread as far as I'm concerned. The subject is 'FB shares detailed location data and you might not know it', not 'one time, in band camp, I lied…

I'm adding to the noise, but on Firefox there's a "add collapse subthreads button" add-on. I think there's one for Chrome too.

Re: Stalking Your Friends with Facebook Messenger

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Post by gutnor »

amyjess wrote: post #98
orthoganol wrote: post #43

I find it hard to grasp why any intelligent individual who knows what goes on with Facebook would still voluntarily remain on Facebook. "Ah but the social ostracization!", seemingly the main reason why otherwise intelligent, informed people do stay on Facebook, just doesn't hold up anymore, as too many cool, socially active 20-somethings I know or are acquainted with have moved off of Facebook, mostly in last 1-2 yea…

I simply don't care about privacy. I value my social life, and I value being able to actually communicate with my friends. I have made a conscious and rational decision that my social life is more valuable to me than my privacy.

I'm not quite sure how that works for you but generally speaking, social life is all about privacy - yours and more importantly others.

You don't share everything to everybody or you end up being the sucker that gets the news late or not at all because he can never shut the fuck up.

Even if you are careful about others privacy, you can be a victim of the carelessness of others. As an example, we have friends on FB we can no longer read any news due to them friending people careless about their privacy wishes. Everything now is coded messages like "Worked better than expected. Next step tomorrow at 10", so you must have had a conversation with them outside of FB in order to know what the fuck is going on - which is the reason why we had FB in the first place.

Re: Stalking Your Friends with Facebook Messenger

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Post by spacemanmatt »

smokinn wrote: post #60
corobo wrote: post #49

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Or maybe "Here's my GPS coords and current speed". Facebook Messenger should add direction and speed information!

Glympse does this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.glympse.an...

Does it still suck raw eggs? I wanted that functionality but found Glympse too horrible to use at the time, a while back.

Re: Stalking Your Friends with Facebook Messenger

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Post by jahnu »

CookieMon wrote: post #91

I use this facebook app now: http://i.imgur.com/Iyd43n6.png (Android) It's either a well written FB app, or a no-permissions jail around Facebook's own hybrid-app/mobile-site. GPS no longer turns on, and messaging works for me.

I use it in a second browser only for Facebook.

Re: Stalking Your Friends with Facebook Messenger

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Post by sixothree »

darklajid wrote: post #56
orthoganol wrote: post #43

I find it hard to grasp why any intelligent individual who knows what goes on with Facebook would still voluntarily remain on Facebook. "Ah but the social ostracization!", seemingly the main reason why otherwise intelligent, informed people do stay on Facebook, just doesn't hold up anymore, as too many cool, socially active 20-somethings I know or are acquainted with have moved off of Facebook, mostly in last 1-2 yea…

That's a rather harsh argument and we could (not trying to derail this) proceed and say the same thing about people that use Google products, Twitter, WhatsApp, 'the cloud' etc. - and in the end we'll finally agree with Stallman. I don't have a Facebook account and have to admit that I never truly understood the benefit, the appeal. It seemed full of ads, games, random pictures and without structure - i.e. you might…

I am finding more and more that people who post on facebook feel like they've gone out of their way to inform you of something. Excluding yourself from facebook means excluding yourself from the events in their life.

Re: Stalking Your Friends with Facebook Messenger

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Post by spacemanmatt »

spacemanmatt wrote: post #113
icebraining wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platitude

A platitude is meaningless. GP is actually a true statement about using FaceBook.

You don't have to agree with it. It's a commonly part of the dictionary definition.

Re: Stalking Your Friends with Facebook Messenger

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Post by pavel_lishin »

bentcorner wrote: post #122
darklajid wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's unrelated. Sharing _exact_ locations by default without realizing it is creepy/intimidating. The content of the message/the incident itself is just an anecdote that explains how the GP noticed this idiotic behavior of FB's chat. Commenting on the anecdote derails the thread as far as I'm concerned. The subject is 'FB shares detailed location data and you might not know it', not 'one time, in band camp, I lied…

I'm adding to the noise, but on Firefox there's a "add collapse subthreads button" add-on. I think there's one for Chrome too.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/hacker-news-collap...

Re: Stalking Your Friends with Facebook Messenger

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Post by [deleted] »

Fuxy wrote: post #33
paganel wrote: post #28

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It depends on the culture. When I hear "I'll be late 5 minutes" that usually means 10 or 15, "10 minutes late" means an actual 20 or 30 minutes, while everything higher than 20 minutes could mean an actual hour. I live in Romania.

That's why i set myself a rule of whenever somebody says I will be there in 5 minutes I translate it to give me 5 minutes to show up if i don't forget about it. And I hold everyone to it. If you don't show up in the amount of time you specify I'm gone. I'm Romanian too I just hate wasting my time. My friends learned that really quickly.

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Re: Stalking Your Friends with Facebook Messenger

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Post by bibinou »

Tinned_Tuna wrote: post #118

A minor nit-pick, most GPS chips will happily give out a position as a best-effort. The actual accuracy of the measurement is given by the dilution of position (DOP), which does not appear to be in the data shown in the blog post. This would undermine their ability to pin-point their location to within a meter, as the DOP could be very high; especially in areas with lots of tall buildings or other problematic environ…

The app does not only uses GPS, it uses an underlying framework that gather position from GPS and other sources like Wifi location databases, which are much more precise.
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