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French National Assembly approved Internet traffic monitoring system (French)

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Re: French National Assembly approved Internet traffic monitoring system (French)

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Suggested improvement to the French political system: if < 50% of the delegates are present there is no quorum and no laws can be passed.

Aren't most European democracies 'particracies' nowadays? Delegates vote as they are told by the party leadership.

Re: French National Assembly approved Internet traffic monitoring system (French)

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No one of you Frenchs using HN has traslated the article to English yet? This does not help!

Really? You couldn't be bothered to put the article into google translate?

https://translate.google.co.uk/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&...

(Sorry for long link)

Re: French National Assembly approved Internet traffic monitoring system (French)

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Suggested improvement to the French political system: if < 50% of the delegates are present there is no quorum and no laws can be passed.

government has a majority in the French assembly. The result would have been the same with more deputies: law would have passed. Each deputy seems specialized in a few fields and does not attend discussions to have time to work on other things (mayor, meetings,...) So, not sure if quorum > 50% would be useful.

...to work or not. Some of them never show up at the parliement.

But laws are not really discussed in the main chamber. The way it works is that laws are really discussed, debated and modified in commissions, and the main vote is only for the TV, and for MPs to demonstrate publicly their opposition.

Re: French National Assembly approved Internet traffic monitoring system (French)

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post #33

Can anyone point to an alternative to Gandhi.net for domains / SSL? Works well, good service, not godaddy.

I use and recommend namecheap for SSL certs. Very easy, very cost effective. Haven't had a problem with them in the last few years of use.

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La Quadrature du Net has also affirmed that while they were demonstrating in front of the National Assembly, there were two IMSI Catchers. And the law wasn't even passed yet. Great example of what will happen. ( http://www.franceinfo.fr/actu/politique/article/des-appareil... link in french, can provide a translation if needed) Bernard Cazeneuve, our ministre de l'Intérieur (Tasked with internal security, i.e. police…

Encrypting all communications is certainly the way to go. But, I wonder if we can make these systems completely inefficient by flooding them with false positives. Assuming we can figure out the patterns they are looking for in our communications, could this be a possible solution to force them to withdraw they "black boxes"?

Flooding the system can only work if the group that floods the system is large enough that it isn't simply expedient for the surveillance organisations to decide you're a potential risk and put you under additional surveillance.

Encryption is in a similar position, but it is a far easier sell to business and the general public, and so the chances of reaching critical mass of communications is much greater.

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Organizations including the French Human Rights Watch, ISPs, privacy advocates and political figures have criticized the Data Retention policy before it has even been brought forward to the national assembley. The “projet de loirelatif au renseignement” or the draft law on intelligence has been scheduled for consideration on the 13th of April 2015, in addition to a one step process that will exclude revisiting the Data Retention policy for a second time. I`m going to put on internet privacy shield such as vpn: http://www.bestvpnservice.com/best-france-vpn.html

Re: French National Assembly approved Internet traffic monitoring system (French)

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post #14

La Quadrature du Net has also affirmed that while they were demonstrating in front of the National Assembly, there were two IMSI Catchers. And the law wasn't even passed yet. Great example of what will happen. ( http://www.franceinfo.fr/actu/politique/article/des-appareil... link in french, can provide a translation if needed) Bernard Cazeneuve, our ministre de l'Intérieur (Tasked with internal security, i.e. police…

Just a word of caution. Sometimes I read "OffTheRecord" chatlogs that have been posted on Cryptome. A false sense of security can be more risky business than weak security, as pertains to what gets exposed.

Obviously no tool like that can prevent the exposure of the contents of the chat, and hopefully nobody believes that.

It does have the very useful property of granting plausible deniability, though, by making it possible to forge messages after the fact.

Re: French National Assembly approved Internet traffic monitoring system (French)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, you need direct democracy. With modern communications, there is no reason to organize frequent elections on key issues, like in Switzerland.

Direct democracy only works if most of the voters have: 1) sufficient general education; 2) sufficient domain education; 3) time to read the law; 4) time to reflect on the law; 5) peers to discuss at length and with depth the law; etc. It's more efficient to have delegation systems. The problem is that both politicians and the press are corrupted delegation systems.

So true. But..

"It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried." - Winston Churchill.

Re: French National Assembly approved Internet traffic monitoring system (French)

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(French here). This was quite expected, the government slowly adopted more and more laws to restrict freedom and to watch everyone during the past ten years, this is not the first nor the last law, this is just another step for the next law which will be even worse. The government is even censoring comments on social media about the law when it's not going in their direction (I'm not even joking). The French democrac…

> The government is even censoring comments on social media about the law when it's not going in their direction Do you have a source for that? I'm genuinely curious.

OP is going a bit far, but I believe he's referring to http://www.numerama.com/magazine/32780-loi-renseignement-qua...

Basically, our Defense Minister's twitter account posted a quote of Christiane Taubira (the Defense Minister) saying "It is obvious that the methods of retrieval [of data] are potentially endangering private life".

It was quickly removed.

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